The Harrenhal Conspiracy

The conspiracy parts of this are really well done. My only problem with it is that every time a new route to RLJ is proposed, I throw up in my mouth a little.

ALJ 'til I die.

R+L=J isn't really the focal point. I am currently N+A=J myself.

Also the Ethan Glover bit is genius.

I've only had the chance to get through part I, but I pretty much agree 100% with that part. I think he has a pretty interesting take so far.

I'll read it tonight!

Wraith haven't read about Ashara yet. I want to see if I can guess it before I do.

I have to say this was really really good. I too applaude fingering Glover as a rat. I even buy the Ashara go between to send messages to would be conspirators scenario.It makes sense in that setting if Rhaegar was planning something against his father,and he was being watched he would need someway to communicate.Beatutiful woman dancing with alot of dudes yeah.Your input about the tourney being rigged so Rhaegar could win,was spot on.Alot of us believed that was the case,but i loved your highlighting of the Selmy better Knight V better angle.This coincides well with what he told Dany about Rhaegar being an able fighter.He throwing it so Rhaegar could win in the end a certainty to me.

I always thought it was Selmy Ashara danced with but you are right it could have been her brother or another KG's member for all we know.Same with the black brother,he could have been anyone GRRM decides to make relevant later on or not.

I am not a proponent of RLJ but if certain elements of that crowning was present i could see Lyanna saying something to Rhaegar because she didn't want herself AND Robert to be King and Queen caught up it that whole politics. Robert till the day he died still loathe that. I am "R"+ L=J with Robert instead of Rhaegar.As thing stands i still believe the crowning was a "dig" at Lyanna.

The abduction is another angle. Rhaegar abducting or running off with Lyanna is another thing i don't believe.I don't think Rhaegar had any clue where Lyanna was up until the moment Robert killed him.I favor Ned and Lyanna in that scenario with the aid of Howland and i think Rhaegar was made a scapegoat for what he did at Harrenhall by insulting her( which is what i think that crowning was about).

The whole Lyanna in the Vale i am digging and who knows Lyanna may have been the Fisherman's daughter who "Ned" *wink wink*left with a baby in her belly.

Cudoes on a fair amount of this stuff dude

Ok, going slowly, read part one. The only thing I have to add, is that Hoster Tully's wife is a Whent. So his connection at Harrinhal is both ambition and familial: another reason for his daughters to be sought out by the Starks, Lannisters, and Arryn.

Editing for Part 2: Hmmm. Brandon as a player, not a "playa", very interesting take. Layers and layers of meaning: where have we seen that before??
Lyanna as the one who "tells" is really creative! I know we have spent a lot of time debating how Sansa and Arya give us insight into Lyanna. Good use of speculation
Looking forward to reading part 3 tonight. Thanks for bringing this up, Wraith! And welcome, kinglittlefinger, nice work! You should enjoy playing in this sandbox!