Post by SlyWren on Sept 22, 2015 23:28:07 GMT
Sept 22, 2015 1:41:50 GMT @danceswithflagons said:
I don't know about an entire army either, but def more than six. Especially if you recall that the Wildling party which Waymar was dead set on finding (heh) all died without wounds. Might take a large group of wws/Others to bring down the cold in that way. Would make sense that it takes more than a few to bring the cold like that.
Also, why aren't they just "colding" Waymar to death? Is it because he's armed and they need to see the sword? Do they recognize him as noble? If Nan is right and they hate the warm blood in his veins, does his very old, noble blood "smell" different? And at what point am I going to realize I'm asking questions we can't answer yet?
Sept 22, 2015 1:41:50 GMT @danceswithflagons said:
With the humans it's not so weird. I mean how old is Dawn? The Others? They are from human stock somewhere, sometime when. I'm conflicted.Brings me back to your point about their being faceless--they aren't human in that sues. Do they have access to the collective memory of the Weirwoods? Of whatever raised them? Drogon arguably has Drogo's love for Dany--and Drogo's violence. And takes her to the Dothraki sea. So, whatever blood spells are connected to the Others--do they have access to an ancient memory? Dawn is ancient--predates the VS that might be able to go against the Others now. So, seems they 'd be looking for Dawn--for the ancient sword.
Considering they have language and humor, it seems more likely than not that they would also have oral histories. They might even have a writing system (runes?). The North Remembers, my friend. And Coldhands is an indicator of someone who remembers what the Watch has forgotten for thousands of years. I'm thinking the Others are very similar to First Men, culturally speaking, if not formerly First Men.
Again, though--"faceless." They are a pack of "no ones." Yes--humor and mocking. But individual culture and identity, like First Men--can't see it from this scene. Not with the faceless and the silent signals. Martin himself said he's not sure if they have a culture--really seems like the "memory" of the sword is a magically transmitted memory.