So while I am a horse-crazy woman, GRRM uses obscure terms for his horse breeds. This thread is my cheat-sheet where images of horses that fit the descriptions can be posted.
The first is a "garron", a smaller, tough horse that gets around well in bad footing, and doesn't eat much.
I'm going to match this with the Welsh Cob. They're bred to be strong and get around in the mountains of Wales.
The next is a Sand Steed. It's supposed to be a fast desert horse.
There are two real-world desert horses that might work: the Akhal-Teke, which is a racehorse from Turkmanistan, and the Arabian. Many people believe that Byerley Turk, one of the founding sires of the thoroughbred breed, was an Akhal-Teke. Here is what the Akhal-teke looks like:
This is the Arabian, bred as a war horse for the deserts of the middle east. Also one of today's racehorse foundations, it is the premiere endurance horses internationally.
The next entry is the palfrey. This is supposed to be a gentle, comfortable horse. Palfreys are amblers, in other words they don't trot. This is a Missouri Fox-Trotter. They were bred to be ridden around the plantations of the American South. They don't trot, so the gentlemen wouldn't sweat in their fine clothes while riding one.
SlyWren proposes the Icelandic horse as a palfrey contender. They come in interesting colors, too.
Next is the destrier, a knight's horse for tornaments and jousting. This horse needs to be strong enough for carrying a man in armor, and flashy enough to look good in barding, draped in the family colors. Many people think of workhorses as knight's horse, but they were more likely to be like today's warmbloods.
This is a Holsteiner, one of Germany's oldest warmblood breeds.
Finally, there is the courser, a war horse that can run, jump, and be used for hunting. Again, needs to be big enough for a man in armor or chainmail, but it is smaller or at least lighter than the destier. For this type, I think the Trakehaner, another old German warmblood, is a good fit. They are lighter and faster than many warmbloods, and excell in 3-Day eventing, which is based on cavelry trials.
Thanks for reading. I hope your mind-pictures are richer than they were before!
The next entry is the palfrey. This is supposed to be a gentle, comfortable horse. Palfreys are amblers, in other words they don't trot. This is a Missouri Fox-Trotter. They were bred to be ridden around the plantations of the American South. They don't trot, so the gentlemen wouldn't sweat in their fine clothes while riding one.
First off YAY! Thank you for this thread. Looking at all the horses reminds me of the thoroughbred I learned to ride on when I was 5.
Second, re: palfreys. I also understood, from my obviously extensive and scholarly research into medieval riding (see also: History Channel watching during insomnia) that horses like the icelandic pony/horse were used. Because they have the ambling gait. Very level. Minimal jostling. Horses and rider can keep it us for hours.
Tried to cut and paste a picture. Failed. But they are fabulous. And I want one. Very practical.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Second, re: palfreys. I also understood, from my obviously extensive and scholarly research into medieval riding (see also: History Channel watching during insomnia) that horses like the icelandic pony/horse were used. Because they have the ambling gait. Very level. Minimal jostling. Horses and rider can keep it us for hours.
Tried to cut and paste a picture. Failed. But they are fabulous. And I want one. Very practical.
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Thanks! I'll see if I can find one to insert into the paltry area. Sleep is eluding me tonight, too. But there is much to learn in the middle of the night!
SlyWren, I added the icelandic to the palfreys. Very cute faces :-)
SlyWren, I added the icelandic to the palfreys. Very cute faces :-)
Thanks! And amen! In the winter, their coats get long and shaggy. They look like big, hairy, shetland ponies. Or just toys.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
@morrigansraven, I always pictured the destrier as being a draft horse or some cross, so it would be strong enough to carry armored knights. You'd need a horse with a strong back for that!
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
@morrigansraven, I always pictured the destrier as being a draft horse or some cross, so it would be strong enough to carry armored knights. You'd need a horse with a strong back for that!
You're right, and the original warmbloods were hot + coldblood horse...like your Twist :-). Today they're refined somewhat in looks, but still huge. Most are well over 16 hands, and wide, and strong. Remember, dressage training is the direct descendant of war horse training. The Royal Lippizan School, the Cadre Noir in France still teach military riding :-) There was a Prussian School at one time too, I think. German School dressage still exists, fer sure :thumbup:
Next is the destrier, a knight's horse for tornaments and jousting. This horse needs to be strong enough for carrying a man in armor, and flashy enough to look good in barding, draped in the family colors. Many people think of workhorses as knight's horse, but they were more likely to be like today's warmbloods.
This is a Holsteiner, one of Germany's oldest warmblood breeds.
That is a fine looking horse!! Love dapple greys. I don't like riding skinny horses anymore. Or short ones.
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones