The green men of the Isle of Faces

Sure to some Braavos ancestry, since we are told that Baelish's father was the son of a mercenary/sell sword from Braavos. Any connections to banker's I am unaware of. We are told nothing about Petyr Baelish's mother or grandmother, and we don't even know if his mothers real name was Alayne, although I tend to want to believe that since it would be information that could be disputed for his Sansa/Alayne cover-up story.

But what about his mother? Perhaps she came from the neck? He is small, slender, slight, has brown hair, grey-green eyes. He moves quietly at times, stealthy at times, and he can climb (at least down the rock ladder near the Red Keep well) and Meera seems to be able to climb and move in such ways. It's tinfoil for certain, but I am going to play with it in my mind. It would be interesting if Petyr had a historic connection to the north, and perhaps a genetic connection to skin-changers. What was the Marsh King's talent? I don't know but stories claim he rode lizard-lion's into battle and that seems like a possible skin-changer talent. Is it much different than riding a dragon into battle? Or Varamyr riding his shadowcat/snow bear into battle?



Oh, I would think he is bringing our attention to it for a reason, but it's unclear why. It's certainly helpful for tinfoil but I am sure you are correct and it means more than that. What if the water is black and that ties to the pool at Winterfell, or the reason that the Blackwater Rush is associated with black water! Arya does see an island in the God's Eye, that she describes as "heavily wooded" but she never tells us what color the woods are. Jon tells us he see's occasional red tree's when looking down from the Fist and as they travel through the Haunted Forest. Why wouldn't Arya tell us if she seen some red color in that "heavily wooded" isle. Now, she could be to far away for details like that, or possibly the color of those trees is a detail that GRRM doesn't wish to share.



Ah, but did he? Or is he misleading us to think so? Are they called "greenmen" as a nod to "greensight"? Or are they called "greenmen" because of the tree's that are green? I just find it a little odd that the "green" seer's/sight/etc are are associated with a tree that has no green color imagery! We hear A LOT about the sentinel tree's in this story. They come up in the text often. A sentinel is placed on "guard" to "watch". Bran chooses to climb the sentinel tree in the godswood to help him climb to the tower that he likes to "watch" Wintefell from, the same tower that he is pushed from. Before this, Bran seems to be afraid of the weirwood with it's face, but not after his fall. I feel like there is something important in all of that, but I can't quite connect it yet. 

Will also climbs a sentinel tree to help him become a look out, a "watcher". Interestingly, when the white walkers first present to Waymar Royce, I think all but the first one, the swordsman, are referred to as watchers.

I am just questioning what tree's were actually carved and associated with the "greenman". If nobody follows my line of thought, it doesn't bother me a bit. It's just something I have been wondering about!


The information about the weirwood groves and every "tree" on the island given a face are actually Luwin's words, and I know there is some doubt to the truth that the citadel is telling/educating the people of Westeros with. But maybe this is something they don't know either. After all, this would have happened before the time of the Andals, therefore before the time of written records in Westeros. Maybe it's correct but I am in "doubt everything" mode so I question this information.

As to Bran's "and carved strange faces in the weirwoods", I also squint at that a little bit. Here is my reasoning.

We know that Bran thinks his grandfather Rickard was beheaded by Aerys, but we know that isn't true. Probably, and this is a guess, what Bran knows is that his grandfather was executed "by the king"'s order, and the form of execution that Bran is familiar with, because of Ned's First Men teaching, is beheading. So, Bran takes a two pieces of information, combines them, and get's the wrong answer about Rickard's death. Or at least the details are wrong.

Why can't this be the same reasoning for the faces carved in the tree's? Bran is told by Luwin that "all the tree's" were given faces, but Bran really only is familiar with weirwood's having carved faces so he translates the information he has been given with the Isle of Faces and his personal knowledge of the weirwood heart tree at Winterfell with a carved face to assume that means it was the weirwoods on the Isle of Faces that were carved. But what if he is wrong about some details, just like he is wrong to think that Rickard was beheaded?

It's just a different way to look at this idea, and I have no idea what the truth really is, but I certainly believe GRRM is tricky and is trying to mislead us.