Post by stdaga on Jun 27, 2017 3:35:05 GMT
Jun 27, 2017 1:25:12 GMT danl said:
Even if this is a bit of an exaggeration, even if he showed up demanding justice, he had to know that his family was under suspicion from the mad king. If it was even close to this, his actions seem suicidal (and likely destined to doom his father). So I wonder if his motivations were completely different than we have been lead to believe.I think it's very possible. I have felt for a long time that Brandon had an interest in Ashara, and that something about Ashara is what drove him to go to the Red Keep in a rash manner. I used to think it was about Lyanna, but now I am not so certain of that. But honestly, who knows but GRRM and his withholding books from us!
Jun 27, 2017 1:25:12 GMT danl said:
It sounds a bit like Jon Snow handily defeating a bunch of low-born men of the NW.If you mean that Jon Snow is like Brandon, then I agree. Brandon and Jon both try to make quick work of their battles. Ser Arthur, in the case of the Smiling Knight, seems to drag the battle out as long as possible. That is not like Jon at all.
Of course, Jaime's recollection of this incident with Ser Arthur might not be so accurate, and either the Smiling Knight was more a challenge for Arthur Dayne than Jaime let's on (Jon vs Rattleshirt/Mance), or the duel didn't last nearly as long as Jaime remembers. If Arthur gloried in beating the tar out of a man who had less training than him, then yes, that sounds a bit like our Jonno!
Jun 27, 2017 1:25:12 GMT danl said:
I assume Howland was watching Ashara because she was passing information, or negotiating, or recruiting. Everything in the story is in code, so why do we always assume that they were literally 'dancing'?Yes. I think Ashara was a player in the game. And she was playing for Team Rhaegar!
But why did Howland know to watch for Ashara, or is Howland just very intuitive and picked up on this political maneuvering? Did he learn something during his time on the Isle of Faces that steered him in a certain direction while at Harrenhal? Howland's story of Harrenhal is vague and told through the POV of his children, which makes it scoot right into unreliable narrator territory! And his intent is a complete mystery to me!