3 Mothers, 3 Children

kinglittlefinger, the blue flower is not Jon. It can only be a female.

Women *flower*, in ASOIAF, not men.

So I'm thinking it's a she wolf who will bring down the Wall. That flower is breaking the Wall right before our eyes.

Arya is most likely (her Needle points North), but I'm hoping for the Night's Queen.

Other than that, it could be Lyanna, herself, from beyond the grave.

Whomever she is, she may also kill Dany... since she's the one who saw her power...

Anyhoo, this opens up possibilities for Jon. 😉

Just think of the phrase "a woman flowered" vs "a man grown." Men do not flower, women do. In truth, Women are written quite literally as "flowers" in asoiaf, and that flower is "plucked" by men. Men are "swords", who bloody themselves when "sheathed" in flowers. Here are a few specific examples of the former:

Joffrey, AGOT Sansa VI:
"I'll get you with child as soon as you're able," Joffrey said as he escorted her across the practice yard. "If the first one is stupid, I'll chop off your head and find a smarter wife. When do you think you'll be able to have children?"
Sansa could not look at him, he shamed her so. "Septa Mordane says most … most highborn girls have their flowering at twelve or thirteen."

Chattaya, ACOK Tyrion III:
"Her blood is the blood of summer, my lord, but my daughter was born here in King's Landing." His surprise must have shown on his face, for Chataya continued, "My people hold that there is no shame to be found in the pillow house. In the Summer Isles, those who are skilled at giving pleasure are greatly esteemed. Many highborn youths and maidens serve for a few years after their flowerings, to honor the gods."

Brienne I AFFC:
Brienne believed the girl had left the city. If she were still in King's Landing, the gold cloaks would have turned her up. She had to have gone elsewhere . . . but elsewhere is a big place. If I were a maiden newly flowered, alone and afraid, in desperate danger, what would I do? she had asked herself. Where would I go?

Sansa I AFFC:
But that was when she was a little girl, and foolish. She was a maiden now, three-and-ten and flowered. All her nights were full of song, and by day she prayed for silence.

Cat of the Canals, AFFC:
The other whores said that the Sailor's Wife visited the Isle of the Gods on the days when her flower was in bloom, and knew all the gods who lived there, even the ones that Braavos had forgotten. They said she went to pray for her first husband, her true husband, who had been lost at sea when she was a girl no older than Lanna. "She thinks that if she finds the right god, maybe he will send the winds and blow her old love back to her," said one-eyed Yna, who had known her longest, "but I pray it never happens. Her love is dead, I could taste that in her blood. If he ever should come back to her, it will be a corpse."

ADWD, The Merchant's Man:
More recently, the youngest of Lord Yronwood's daughters had taken to following him about the castle. Gwyneth was but twelve, a small, scrawny girl whose dark eyes and brown hair set her apart in that house of blue-eyed blondes. She was clever, though, as quick with words as with her hands, and fond of telling Quentyn that he had to wait for her to flower, so she could marry him.

Kevan Lannister, ADWD Epilogue:
She will never wash the stain away, no matter how hard she scrubs. Ser Kevan remembered the girl she once had been, so full of life and mischief. And when she'd flowered, ahhhh … had there ever been a maid so sweet to look upon? If Aerys had agreed to marry her to Rhaegar, how many deaths might have been avoided? Cersei could have given the prince the sons he wanted, lions with purple eyes and silver manes … and with such a wife, Rhaegar might never have looked twice at Lyanna Stark. The northern girl had a wild beauty, as he recalled, though however bright a torch might burn it could never match the rising sun.


Thing is, even in the Bael story, the rose = a woman. 

"North or south, singers always find a ready welcome, so Bael ate at Lord Stark's own table, and played for the lord in his high seat until half the night was gone. The old songs he played, and new ones he'd made himself, and he played and sang so well that when he was done, the lord offered to let him name his own reward. 'All I ask is a flower,' Bael answered, 'the fairest flower that blooms in the gardens o' Winterfell.'"

"Now as it happened the winter roses had only then come into bloom, and no flower is so rare nor precious. So the Stark sent to his glass gardens and commanded that the most beautiful o' the winter roses be plucked for the singer's payment. And so it was done. But when morning come, the singer had vanished . . . and so had Lord Brandon's maiden daughter. Her bed they found empty, but for the pale blue rose that Bael had left on the pillow where her head had lain."

Same book, but not exactly adjacent. Bael is ACOK chapter 48 Dany's vision is ACOK chapter 36. 



Very possible, and plausible. Here's why...

The flower in Dany's vision is literally growing and coming of age at the Wall. This coming of age is causing the Wall to crack.

The same reasons that I believe Arya is the most likely candidate might also be applied to Dany, given that Dany has been rendered sterile by her decision to abort Rhaego. (Dany chose Drogo's life over the life of her child, she knew the price.)

If Dany is currently bleeding because she has the Pale Mare virus, that might allow her fertility to return to her at the Wall. 

But, I think she is menstruating now, in the books. And that Arya will be the flower to bloom at the Wall. Needle guides her north, and by then she'll be about the age Septa Mordane told Sansa to expect her flowering.



Even if they were twins, it wouldn't make sense for Dany to see Jon as a flower. Flowers are always women, unless we're talking about Ser Loras.

I think there is more truth to be had in your first instinct: It doesn't really make sense for her to have a vision of Jon anyways if you think about it.

Too few really think about it. 

voice wolfmaid7 I like where this is going.

A Search of Ice and Fire for "blue rose" or "winter rose" only appears around a daughter of House Stark, either Lyanna or the daughter from the Bael story. But if you accept that it doesn't make sense for Dany to have a vision about Jon, then it also doesn't really make sense for her to have a vision about Arya. Gonna find the text and reread it, but I think pretty much all of the visions and prophecies from the HotU deal with Dany directly or at least the Targaryen family.

But I do like the take of a flower exclusively representing a woman, definitely cools me down on Jon being Lyanna's even more.

That passage ties it to Jon even more IMO.

It says "bride of fire" after those three visions, and ironically they match up pretty damn well with the "three mounts you will ride, one to bed, one to dread, one to love." She rides the mount of the Dothraki (horse) to bed (sex) on her wedding night to her Dothraki husband. I have a feeling she will ride the mount of the Greyjoys (ship) to dread (war) in Westeros with her Greyjoy husband, Euron to get his fleet (or Victarion, but let's be real that's Aeron strapped to the bow of Silence in her vision), and she will ride the mount of the Targaryens (dragon) to love (Jon) and meet her Targaryen husband at the Wall to fight the White Walkers.

I think I just threw up in my mouth writing that.

True...Dany is having visions that are expansive.