Jon kills Dany. Cersei and Jaime die together when eveything crumbles. Clegane bowl = they both win. Miss Sundae get beheaded by the Mountain, not sure about this). Drogo burns the red keep, the iron throne, everything. It could end with a royal council with Davos, Sansa, Yara, Varys, Jon, etc.
and this is how I personally see the endgame, according to those leaks :
Post by Direwolf Blitzer on May 1, 2019 19:09:35 GMT
I bet these leaks are just speculation, because it's more or less how I would guess.
Cersei gets a final "redemption" arc. Jamie is distraught to see her banging Euron, Cersei secretly feels terrible because she betrayed the only man who ever loved her (who is also her brother, yeah!), Euron wounds Jamie, Cersei kills Euron Arya-style from behind with a dagger, somehow Cersei gets stabbed, the Valonqar's hand around her neck is actually cradling her head lovingly, not killing her. The audience feels kinda bad because all she wanted to do was fuck her brother and protect their abominable children, she still dies, the end.
Clegane has literally no reason to live. No house, no titles, no family. Why not kill him off after he kills his brother? You have to look at the expected utility of the character. You let Jon and Dany live because the reader imagines them ruling Westeros with a sane tax policy, and it makes the reader feel warm inside. Someone and something in the books has to "live" after the last page is turned. But it ain't Clegane, he has no future, so you exhaust that resource with a memorable and heroic death.
The above can apply to most anyone, too. We just need some kind of ruler in KL and Winterfell. Everyone else is just an Epic Moment waiting to happen. This is playoff baseball, people. That dude isn't pitching next week, you don't need to rest him. Every one of these characters is a chip waiting to be cashed in by the producers. Success is measured in how many shitty listicles and garbage articles US Weekly and Deadspin and every other poxy internet whorehouse writes about your show.
Euron kills Rhaegal--hits him with three of three "bolts."
Mountain beheads Missendai while Dany and Grey Worm watch. Apparently this is why Dany will lose it, burn KL and Jon will kill her--next episode.
Jamie and Brienne have sex--really hoping this isn't how House Lannister survives.
Other potentials: some are claiming Tormund says he doens't want to go south. Wants to wander in the north. And Jon asks Tormund to take Ghost with him. Cause, why not?
Should be right on par with the last episode. Okey dokey.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Oh--and apparently Dorne's showing back up in the next episode or two--someone's spotted banners from Martell. And there's something in a script about House Dalt. Because why not?
My Sword of the Morning blindness would normally make me hope for a reveal. sohialo, @superunknown5. voice and all other potential Arthur fans.
But given how the rest of the season has gone, I'm betting the Dornish are just coming because they heard Sansa wants lemons. And since she's "the smartest person" Arya knows, they want to pay homage with cakes.
And that will be that.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
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All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
My Sword of the Morning blindness would normally make me hope for a reveal. sohialo, superunknown5. voice and all other potential Arthur fans.
I suspect Ned forgot Dawn at the tower... I mean, with his dead sister and the baby and the nurse and all that, a sword might have been too much to carry for him.
I suspect Ned forgot Dawn at the tower... I mean, with his dead sister and the baby and the nurse and all that, a sword might have been too much to carry for him.
Oh, yes. Especially since he had to bring everything else.
To dive straight into the hole of hopeless optimism:
There are the casting notices from early on before the season started.
Some women who filmed together, posted pictures on line, had names (one's named "Serra" but would make an excellent Ashara") and yet have not shown up so far.
Probably nothing.
But you tell me: wouldn't she make a good Ashara? voice and @superunknown5--even you must approve. She even looks passable as a sibling of the Arthur Dayne actor. gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Danielle_Galligan
Mindless, pointless hope in the face of this season.
But I'm a sucker for something making some sense.
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All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Could be an Ashara. With make-up and costume, there might be quite close resemblance to Arthur. And the "Willa" certainly sounds like Wylla, haha!
But I find it really hard to predict anything with D&D, which isn't really surprising as they can't keep their own story straight... I haven't even watched the whole s7 yet.
As for the spoilers you posted above, in particular the last one, I wouldn't be surprised if they are correct. Can't say I like it, at all, but my expectations are practically non-existent. But Drogon just taking off with Dany's body was just moronic! The dragons are supposed to be dangerous, aren't they...? Even for Targaryens?
But I really hope Rhaegal survives! Killing dragons are cruel! And I still haven't forgiven them (and Martin where it is in the books) for Lady, Grey Wind, Summer, Shaggy, and Viserion!
I will cross my fingers and toes tonight that you get some sense in the next episode! (I don't have HBO, a channel in my country airs them later on and I couldn't be bothered to take out that free trial month considering the last seasons...) But I totally spoil myself the day after, touring certain selected channels!
But I find it really hard to predict anything with D&D, which isn't really surprising as they can't keep their own story straight... I haven't even watched the whole s7 yet.
HA! on the bolded, yes. Mel's necklace alone proves that.
As for the spoilers you posted above, in particular the last one, I wouldn't be surprised if they are correct. Can't say I like it, at all, but my expectations are practically non-existent.
Agreed--but since the image I posted was posted long before the episode leaked, gotta think there's a good chance it's on. sohialo had it before me--it's on.
And I do like the idea that the Night King isn't defeated. I don't like how they set up for it, and I'm sure it will be badly presented. But Night vs. Day is a thing in the books. And should be in the show. Even if it's poorly done.
And it will let Same dig into the book horde again to find the Night King's "identity." Ostrich Stark, anyone?
getting three direct, successive hits to the chest. Then falling into the sea. Really think he's dead.
But I agree on the wolves. The spoiler that the wolf deaths are over--I'm really hoping that's so. Same spoiler promises more wolf scenes, so, fingers crossed!!!
I will cross my fingers and toes tonight that you get some sense in the next episode! (I don't have HBO, a channel in my country airs them later on and I couldn't be bothered to take out that free trial month considering the last seasons...) But I totally spoil myself the day after, touring certain selected channels!
Cheers!
And it's not spoiling if the story isn't worth spoiling. At least in my opinion.
But it does sound like there's a big chance Dany dies in episode 5, and then episode 6 is NK redux. Guessing just because they wanted to fake us out?????
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
HA! on the bolded, yes. Mel's necklace alone proves that.
I know! It's like they should say to their audience "Hey, just forget everything we have established in earlier episodes, it doesn't matter any more. Heck, just forget what we establish in THIS episode. We go where we please." I only read the books after s6, and I just can't take the show seriously anymore. And neither does D&D it would seem.
Agreed--but since the image I posted was posted long before the episode leaked, gotta think there's a good chance it's on. sohialo had it before me--it's on.
Might very well be. Sound like their line of *eh* thinking.
And I do like the idea that the Night King isn't defeated. I don't like how they set up for it, and I'm sure it will be badly presented. But Night vs. Day is a thing in the books. And should be in the show. Even if it's poorly done.
Honestly, they kinda have to, don't you think? For something that has been built up since episode 1, it was very anti-climactic that all it took was the death of three named characters, a bunch of extras, and a power puff Arya. Though I do like the thought that the episode should have ended with Bran's eyes turning blue the moment the NK died.
I've seen many wondering why they should continue to watch the show now, so many seem disappointed. (Or it's just me watching the saltier channels, haha!) With how they turned the last seasons, into more of a traditional good vs evil story, it felt like they shot themselves in the foot. But they have to know that, and so the return wouldn't surprise at all. Done very badly.
Animal cruelty! How dare they! Dan has a reputation for being a bit scary, but he (and Dave) should praise their god(s) that they live far away from me! Killing dragons is an abomination!
But I agree on the wolves. The spoiler that the wolf deaths are over--I'm really hoping that's so. Same spoiler promises more wolf scenes, so, fingers crossed!!!
Thank the gods! Perhaps they have realized that would be their only redeeming factor.
And it's not spoiling if the story isn't worth spoiling. At least in my opinion.
But it does sound like there's a big chance Dany dies in episode 5, and then episode 6 is NK redux. Guessing just because they wanted to fake us out?????
Haha, no it isn't! I had thought to keep away from those threads here, and on YT, but I cracked after the first episode. And I couldn't believe what I heard. So when my local channel put s7 up, they didn't wallpaper the site with it, so I missed the first 4 episodes. From what I saw of the last three, I didn't miss much at all... And part of me think it was good with 2 years until this season, just to have a chance of digesting the last season.
Well, I won't miss Dany much tbh, but the way they take her out sounds a bit... silly. Going crazy, ok that is reasonable. But I thought she'd go in a more epic way than that!
And yes, they just want to mess with us, and subverting expectations. Very badly.
Honestly, they kinda have to, don't you think? For something that has been built up since episode 1, it was very anti-climactic that all it took was the death of three named characters, a bunch of extras, and a power puff Arya. Though I do like the thought that the episode should have ended with Bran's eyes turning blue the moment the NK died.
Agreed--just been thinking they were going to drop it all off a cliff. Like Dorne.
I shouldn't hope they will come back to the actual "meaning."
've seen many wondering why they should continue to watch the show now, so many seem disappointed. (Or it's just me watching the saltier channels, haha!) With how they turned the last seasons, into more of a traditional good vs evil story, it felt like they shot themselves in the foot. But they have to know that, and so the return wouldn't surprise at all. Done very badly.
Well--one of the reasons I watch is that the books aren't done.
And the show has been good in the past. Has had really lovely scenes even recently.
But last episode. Oy. It was fun, dimly lit spectacle.
Well, I won't miss Dany much tbh, but the way they take her out sounds a bit... silly. Going crazy, ok that is reasonable. But I thought she'd go in a more epic way than that!
Yes--it was a moment last season that I thought they actually got kinda right--the field of fire was butchery. And her ego-driven execution of the Tarlys. Her standing there in the middle of ashes and corpses saying "kneel to your queen"--Dany as the mad Queen. They got it right.
Gilly is pregnant in this episode. Yup. And if it's a boy, they are naming him Jon.
So, Horn Hill will be happily populated.
Plus, Gendry is named Lord of Storm's End. Because he's really, really qualified with his storyline melded with Edric Storm's.
And then he proposes to Arya. Who tells him no.
So, that should work.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
But you tell me: wouldn't she make a good Ashara? voice and @superunknown5--even you must approve. She even looks passable as a sibling of the Arthur Dayne actor. gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Danielle_Galligan
Nope.
For Ashara of House Dayne, we're taking about an Elizabeth Taylor-level of beauty and 🔥🔥🔥
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."