Just finished Dany I in Storm: she's naked in bed and her handmaiden is naked in bed with her, but is left alone with Jorah when he comes to talk. He sits with her on the bed, she dresses in front of him later, and he kisses her while she's topless, and ogles her boobies. So you have a 40-50-ish (I think) man who is lusting after a tween. I think in medieval times, teens were betrothed or married young sometimes, but weren't always expected to consummate a marriage until they were older. I'm not 100% certain, but I thought I had looked it up, while I was reading ASOIAF, actually, to see how accurate this was.
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
Just finished Dany I in Storm: she's naked in bed and her handmaiden is naked in bed with her, but is left alone with Jorah when he comes to talk. He sits with her on the bed, she dresses in front of him later, and he kisses her while she's topless, and ogles her boobies. So you have a 40-50-ish (I think) man who is lusting after a tween. I think in medieval times, teens were betrothed or married young sometimes, but weren't always expected to consummate a marriage until they were older. I'm not 100% certain, but I thought I had looked it up, while I was reading ASOIAF, actually, to see how accurate this was.
People wed and had kids pretty young, but life expectancy was pretty low. Jorah would practically have been a corpse.
I just realized we might have the reverse in the books as well. Isn't Lancel quite young?
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Yes, I think you are correct. Most people married in their 20s, political marriages might be younger, but consummation even for those was later. I think I remember mid-teens? Even back then, they knew babies have a hard time coming out of narrow pelvises.
Just finished Dany I in Storm: she's naked in bed and her handmaiden is naked in bed with her, but is left alone with Jorah when he comes to talk. He sits with her on the bed, she dresses in front of him later, and he kisses her while she's topless, and ogles her boobies. So you have a 40-50-ish (I think) man who is lusting after a tween. I think in medieval times, teens were betrothed or married young sometimes, but weren't always expected to consummate a marriage until they were older. I'm not 100% certain, but I thought I had looked it up, while I was reading ASOIAF, actually, to see how accurate this was.
People wed and had kids pretty young, but life expectancy was pretty low. Jorah would practically have been a corpse.
I just realized we might have the reverse in the books as well. Isn't Lancel quite young?
Maybe GRRM and his wife swing with cougar cub couples...eeewwww
Yes, I think you are correct. Most people married in their 20s, political marriages might be younger, but consummation even for those was later. I think I remember mid-teens? Even back then, they knew babies have a hard time coming out of narrow pelvises.
Yeah I think 16 was closer to average, last I checked.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
I read the Tyrion Sansa wedding chapter today, and the Tyrion after. Kinda nasty how Tyrion admits he lusts after her, forgot she's 13, too, and how old is Tyrion? In his twenties? He is all polite and stuff and doesn't rape her, but in his mind he still says he wants her. I wish the girls were at least 16, it would make a difference in my mind. Lots of girls are still in training bras at 13!
But I guess writing about Sansa's period was important. But he could have saved it for just Arya. Hope she isn't losing her virginity at 13.
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
I read the Tyrion Sansa wedding chapter today, and the Tyrion after. Kinda nasty how Tyrion admits he lusts after her, forgot she's 13, too, and how old is Tyrion? In his twenties? He is all polite and stuff and doesn't rape her, but in his mind he still says he wants her. I wish the girls were at least 16, it would make a difference in my mind. Lots of girls are still in training bras at 13!
Yup. It's weird. Mayhaps the extreme youth of these child-women is supposed to add a sense of trauma, or tragedy? Lyanna was abducted at 13-14 and dead at 16. That's one reason I prefer Ned+Ashara.
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones