Otherwise--what on earth was the point of bringing Bran back????? Beric, not Bran, figured out the "kill NK, kill them all" thing.
What exactly did Bran contribute other than "NK is coming?" I'm drawing a blank.
Honestly, the only thing he really did was get the Valyrian steel dagger from Littlefinger, and then he gave it to Arya. That's it, but surely they could have her get the dagger in about 20 other ways.
Maybe his role as 3ER will pay off in the next couple episodes, perhaps in helping clarify the clash over the Iron Throne?
It looks like Ghost might be in the trailer for the next episode.
No idea on the dragons.
I did not see Ghost anywhere in that preview but I did see two dragons flying, one of which looked like it had some pretty tattered wings. And Jon Snow is riding a horse out of Winterfell, so perhaps Dany took his dragon riding privileges away?
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
What I did not like was that this episode left me with more questions than answers. We don’t get an explanation for the NK and his agenda. Like why does he want to march south? There’s no snow and it’s really hot. Why is he immune to fire? What is his thing with Bran? Why wasn’t Bran afraid, what does the NK want from him? Why would Bran let Theon suicide on the NK?
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
What I did not like was that this episode left me with more questions than answers. We don’t get an explanation for the NK and his agenda. Like why does he want to march south? There’s no snow and it’s really hot. Why is he immune to fire? What is his thing with Bran? Why wasn’t Bran afraid, what does the NK want from him? Why would Bran let Theon suicide on the NK?
Uh, I think Bran explained the entire conflict last week. He wants an endless night. QED. He's had a hard-on for the 3EC for thousands of years. Fill in the backstory yourself!
Amusingly, they discuss his immunity to fire in the BTS. "We had no reason to think he is immune to fire, but we also had no reason to think he would be susceptible to fire, so why not?" was the basic answer.
They also explain Theon dying as "Bran knew what was going to happen." So I guess he knew the result the entire time. 100% flawless future sight. They better shut him up before he spoils eps 4-6.
What I did not like was that this episode left me with more questions than answers. We don’t get an explanation for the NK and his agenda. Like why does he want to march south? There’s no snow and it’s really hot. Why is he immune to fire? What is his thing with Bran? Why wasn’t Bran afraid, what does the NK want from him? Why would Bran let Theon suicide on the NK?
Uh, I think Bran explained the entire conflict last week. He wants an endless night. QED. He's had a hard-on for the 3EC for thousands of years. Fill in the backstory yourself!
Amusingly, they discuss his immunity to fire in the BTS. "We had no reason to think he is immune to fire, but we also had no reason to think he would be susceptible to fire, so why not?" was the basic answer.
They also explain Theon dying as "Bran knew what was going to happen." So I guess he knew the result the entire time. 100% flawless future sight. They better shut him up before he spoils eps 4-6.
Ok I missed the explanation last week. Still though... WTF it’s too much of a mystery in the background to be like “he thought he could make the sun go away”
As if that can even happen. What a dumb white walker
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
Also, the show was too dark. I couldn’t see anything
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
Frankly? I´m not very hopeful here. I am starting to suspect that Georgie-boy isn´t quite clear where he wants to take this and he has been able to avoid this issue over the first 5 volumes. But he will have to get to it eventually, isn´t he?
...or not.
I'm thinking our best bet is to find a cute redhead to ask a bunch of questions at a Con. Maybe irritate/charm him into blurting out the point.
Seems like a better plan than just waiting for books.
Someone could spend a week finding all of Chekov's unfired guns. Start with Ice. (Though I'll grant Gendry is in town and could reforge that before we're done).
Yes--and he could add extra dragonglass to it. Because, why not?
Other guns: why must there always be a Stark in Winterfell? Greyscale? Just how omniscient is a 3ERaven?
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
The bolded is my correction on the wighted dragon near the end. It was Viserion! Which makes more sense, I had initially thought he had died when he and Rhaegal crashed in a freak mid-air collision!
BTW, was Jon going to yell it to death? I don't get what his goal was there by standing up and yelling at it!!!
What do we say to the God of Death? Not today.
And what do we say to his dragon? AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Honestly, the only thing he really did was get the Valyrian steel dagger from Littlefinger, and then he gave it to Arya. That's it, but surely they could have her get the dagger in about 20 other ways.
Maybe his role as 3ER will pay off in the next couple episodes, perhaps in helping clarify the clash over the Iron Throne?
I really, really hope so. I know I shouldn't hope that they give all of this some semblance of "meaning"--but I still hope.
Plus the directors called episodes 3, 4, and 5 "one big episode"--all tied together.
If that's the case. . . .maybe we are going to learn more about the NK and Bran's purpose? They may do Bran dirty and just kill him off like the Martells. But I have to hope for more. *sigh*
I did not see Ghost anywhere in that preview but I did see two dragons flying, one of which looked like it had some pretty tattered wings. And Jon Snow is riding a horse out of Winterfell, so perhaps Dany took his dragon riding privileges away?
Someone did a screenshot/close up of the preview and it looks like Ghost. But who knows?
Given that two dragons survived, I assume the money will go to them.
We already got a "dance of dragons" in this episode. I assume we'll get another because why not? And because Jon has been fused with fAegon.
So if Dany has "grounded" him from riding Rhaegal, could lead to more tension.
Ok I missed the explanation last week. Still though... WTF it’s too much of a mystery in the background to be like “he thought he could make the sun go away”
As if that can even happen. What a dumb white walker
YUP!!! The Night's King in the books has a desire for power and "love." For abusing his power.
He's echoed in the Smiling Knight, who both abuses his power and retains knightly qualities "cruelty and chivalry all in one," according to Jaime. And the Smiling Knight can only be take out by Dayne, knightly and true and insisting on a fair fight.
Show Night King is just a mindless monster. No wonder they can have Arya, semi-psycho badass, take him out. All the "meaning" of the dangers of abusing power are gone.
Fingers crossed they will do at least something with that theme in the last three episodes, even if they only do it via Dany.
Uh, I think Bran explained the entire conflict last week. He wants an endless night. QED. He's had a hard-on for the 3EC for thousands of years. Fill in the backstory yourself!
Amusingly, they discuss his immunity to fire in the BTS. "We had no reason to think he is immune to fire, but we also had no reason to think he would be susceptible to fire, so why not?" was the basic answer.
They also explain Theon dying as "Bran knew what was going to happen." So I guess he knew the result the entire time. 100% flawless future sight. They better shut him up before he spoils eps 4-6.
The fire immunity--nice that D&D finally explained their writing process: "hey, why not???" Transparency is a good thing.
And Bran's whole "I know everything" crap--they've turned him into "Bran-i-pedia," complete with horoscopes.
I know it's futile, but I gotta pray that Bran is "wrong" sometimes. Or else, why is anyone bothering with "planning?" Just type a search into "Bran-i-pedia."
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
What I did not like was that this episode left me with more questions than answers. We don’t get an explanation for the NK and his agenda. Like why does he want to march south? There’s no snow and it’s really hot. Why is he immune to fire? What is his thing with Bran? Why wasn’t Bran afraid, what does the NK want from him? Why would Bran let Theon suicide on the NK?
Plot holes to the left, plot holes to the right...
I really, really hope so. I know I shouldn't hope that they give all of this some semblance of "meaning"--but I still hope.
Plus the directors called episodes 3, 4, and 5 "one big episode"--all tied together.
I just don't believe them! But maybe the final episode will be a giant needle that sews up every plot hole that exists. Maybe Arya can save the day and do that, too?
I did not see Ghost anywhere in that preview but I did see two dragons flying, one of which looked like it had some pretty tattered wings. And Jon Snow is riding a horse out of Winterfell, so perhaps Dany took his dragon riding privileges away?
Someone did a screenshot/close up of the preview and it looks like Ghost. But who knows?
I finally found Ghost in the preview, it was like a game of "Where's Waldo?" Why is Ghost the size of a sheep? I am annoyed by that! But glad he is alive!
So if Dany has "grounded" him from riding Rhaegal, could lead to more tension.
I wonder about that. Granted, Dany and Jon rode horses into Winterfell, but Jon wasn't a dragon rider yet. And in this scene, Jon was riding out without Dany beside him. It could indicate a fracture already. Perhaps Jon is just going to ride with the troops they are moving south for Dany's "last war"? I hope they leave a few men in the north to help make babies in case no one returns.
But I am more inclined to see tension between Jon and Dany. His face doesn't look to excited when Dany seems to take credit for winning the war against the Night's King. I will give Dany credit, she is brave and fierce on the back of her dragon. She isn't afraid to fight. But it was a combined effort, and while the dragons helped, the show lined it up that a Stark with a knife won the war, not a Targaryen on a dragon. Of course, that might not have been D&D's intent. They certainly didn't have Jon shining in this episode, although he did take the Night's King off his dragon, which did slow the Night's King down, I guess.
Extra credit to Dany and her blasting the Night's King with dragon fire and then waiting for her smug look to be erased as he just walked away was priceless.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Frankly? I´m not very hopeful here. I am starting to suspect that Georgie-boy isn´t quite clear where he wants to take this and he has been able to avoid this issue over the first 5 volumes. But he will have to get to it eventually, isn´t he?
...or not.
I'm thinking our best bet is to find a cute redhead to ask a bunch of questions at a Con. Maybe irritate/charm him into blurting out the point.
Seems like a better plan than just waiting for books.
I can literally visualize it: George snapping for air, turning his head saying: "Elio, can you please take it from here?"
I would like to give the show credit for something I really enjoyed. That shot of the two dragons, above the clouds and silhouetted in the moonlight was truly beautiful. Now, that's all CGI magic but it was pretty. I will remember that scene from this episode. Perhaps because there was enough light to see what the hell was going on, but still, it was beautiful.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
What I did not like was that this episode left me with more questions than answers. We don’t get an explanation for the NK and his agenda. Like why does he want to march south? There’s no snow and it’s really hot. Why is he immune to fire? What is his thing with Bran? Why wasn’t Bran afraid, what does the NK want from him? Why would Bran let Theon suicide on the NK?
NK just wants to kill men, because that was what he was made for. Bran knew Theon would die and buy him enough time for Arya to get there? Can't make up even unsatisfactory explanations for the other questions.
Someone could spend a week finding all of Chekov's unfired guns. Start with Ice. (Though I'll grant Gendry is in town and could reforge that before we're done).
I've no idea if Bran ever gets out of the cave in the books. But he came back way too soon. Now what? He's going to have visions on how to rebuild Winterfell?? Teach meditation?
Thematically, it's George's Grand Motif across all his writing. Sam essentially gave the middle school book report summation of GRRM's writing career in the second episode. Bran goes on being the memory of the world and passes it on to his successor.
On another note, I just want a better ending for the Others than this. Fuck this video game ending for them. Hell, this entire episode felt like I was watching someone playing a video game. I came to watch quality television, not a YouTuber's Let's Play.
I finally found Ghost in the preview, it was like a game of "Where's Waldo?" Why is Ghost the size of a sheep? I am annoyed by that! But glad he is alive!
But I am more inclined to see tension between Jon and Dany. His face doesn't look to excited when Dany seems to take credit for winning the war against the Night's King. I will give Dany credit, she is brave and fierce on the back of her dragon. She isn't afraid to fight. But it was a combined effort, and while the dragons helped, the show lined it up that a Stark with a knife won the war, not a Targaryen on a dragon. Of course, that might not have been D&D's intent. They certainly didn't have Jon shining in this episode, although he did take the Night's King off his dragon, which did slow the Night's King down, I guess.
Oh yes--they are setting Dany up to get drunk on her win and screw this up. It will be forced and rushed and inevitable--like Jon and Dany's crappy love story.
D&D are really done with GOT. They just want to be paid and get out.
But GRRM has already been paid so much, he won't bother to finish--oddly, I guess that makes D&D more "respectful" of their audience???
Thematically, it's George's Grand Motif across all his writing. Sam essentially gave the middle school book report summation of GRRM's writing career in the second episode. Bran goes on being the memory of the world and passes it on to his successor.
True--but the purpose of the "memory of the world" seems rather. . . pointless. The info Bran brought so far didn't help stop the NK.
Or prevent the messiness to come with Jon and Dany fighting each other while they fight Cersei and Euron.
On another note, I just want a better ending for the Others than this. Fuck this video game ending for them. Hell, this entire episode felt like I was watching someone playing a video game. I came to watch quality television, not a YouTuber's Let's Play.
Amen. And an ending that fits with what we've been told about "justice" and the "old way" and the nature of life. And Nan's stories.
Something. . . real. And yes, I know that sounds silly.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.