Rhaella's Last Baby and a SSM
Feb 5, 2020 14:51:07 GMT
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Post by elifsu on Feb 5, 2020 14:51:07 GMT
And of course, there are all sorts of theories tied to Young Griff. Possibly he is Lyanna's child by Rhaegar, but I could see a more Dornish connection for his mother, so Ashara or Elia, perhaps? As to Rhaella, I really haven't given much thought to her having a child that survived, but it would be interesting if she did. Her child, even if it wasn't Aerys, could perhaps have a possible claim to the throne.
This idea of Rhaella is possible. We know that Aerys didn't trust her. Fidelity is what is implied, but what if it's something else he didn't trust her with, as in children. I think we are told she wasn't allowed to be alone with Viserys. As to Ashara possibly being this child, maybe... she does have violet eyes, and I think Aerys had violet colored eyes. We don't know about Rhaella's eye color, but it stands out to be that the three children that we are told are from Aerys and Rhaella's marriage have indigo eyes (Rhaegar), pale lilac eyes (Viserys) and "bring out the violet" in her eyes (Daenerys). In the real world, these shades of eye color seem possible but in GRRM's world, it seems like children inherit eye color from one parent or the other, without combinations. Ned and Cat's children have Stark grey or Tully blue eyes. So, how can Aerys and Rhaella really be the parents of all three of these children with three different eye colors. I think at least one of them isn't from both Aerys and Rhaella, and maybe more.
I have wondered if it could have been Rhaella in the tower of joy. Most assume it was Lyanna, and other's speculate Ashara, but what if there was a great diversion when Rhaella left the Red Keep and it was she who traveled to the tower of joy while an impostor was sent to Dragonstone? I am not sure when she and SAD could have conceived a child, but the timeline is certainly a bit muddled. If Aerys is dead and Rhaegar is dead and his wife and children are all dead (or at least that is what we are told) then Rhaella and Viserys are what is left of the Targaryen dynasty. If Rhaella is giving birth to a child, then her child would also be an heir to the throne (well, they lost the throne, but still...)
I had been thinking that the child that Rhaella gave birth to was Aerys son, and that child was Young Griff, but it's possible the father of this child was not Aerys. Maybe Ser Arthur Dayne. You also have questioned Gerald Hightower, and that's possible. He was there at the toj also, and might have had access to Rhaella in the Red Keep and they could have been lovers and are probably close in age. Those three kingsguard at the toy might have been showing deference to the latest Targaryen heir, not Jon Snow the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna, but a son of Rhaella and someone. Even if a different man planted the seed, Rhaella could pass the child that she bore off as Aerys son. The lemon imagery could tie Young Griff and Arthur Dayne, which I rather like. Since we don't know what Arthur looked like, it's possible that he looked just like a Targaryen and just like Young Griff.
Yes. GRRM likes to lay out precedents, and you mention two of them. Elaena's streak was gold (these are Targaryen colors) and her mother was a Velaryon. Valarr's streak was silver-gold, another Targaryen color, and his mother was a Dondarrion. So, both of them were not pure Targaryen, as a child of Aerys and Rhaella would have been. So, if the streak is an indication of one Targaryen parent and one none-Targaryen parent, then what does that say about Gerold Dayne? Now, it could easily be a hint about his parents, too, but only I think if we find out that Rhaella had dark hair, or if she or Aerys had questionable parentage. Or maybe he is a bastard of either Rhaella or Aerys, but they why his he so dangerous?
What if the dragon has three heads might connect to children of Targaryen/Dayne genes. What if Rhaella and Arthur Dayne could have had three children together? Gerold Dayne and Young Griff are possible, then who is the third? Dany certainly has child of three imagery around her, but how close in age are she and Young Griff? Could they be twins?
I fear I have fallen deep into the cracked pot territory now!
Welcome to rabbit hole ~~ as someone whose favorite character is Aegon, I want him to be really prince Aegon or win the Game tbh. But Rhaella having a baby is not out of realm. Both you and canitryto think Gerold Hightower could be Rhaella's son with Arthur, maybe that's why he is dangerous according to Doran? I suspect Martell's are Highly anti Valyrian and plans a Rhoynar-Andal dynasty for Westeros. If Doran wasn't a shady son of a, I would support them but I hate Dorne sans Elia and Daynes.
About Rhaella's babies, I would say again that she was against PTWP prophecy and tried to stop it. I suspect Ashara could be Shaena, Gerris Drinkwater could be Jaehaerys, there is the mystery of Daeron whose death is never listed, could he be Dareon?, and Rhaella may not give birth to a baby called Aegon in 272ac but information about a nameless child in 270ac (Gerold Hightower?) is curious. Or maybe she gave birth to "Aegon" in 272ac and didn't have a nameless child in 270ac.