Rhaella's Last Baby and a SSM Feb 5, 2020 14:51:07 GMT via mobile stdaga, cecily, and 1 more like this
Post by elifsu on Feb 5, 2020 14:51:07 GMT
elifsu , I was looking back at this thread, and thinking about your thoughts on the possibility that Rhaella might have had a child with Arthur Dayne or Gerald Hightower. I kind of like the idea that Young Griff/Aegon could actually be Rhaella's child. It could be by Aerys but it could be by another man. You had mentioned the Dorne/lemon's connection to Young Griff on the Shy Maid, so perhaps that does indicate some Dorne in his past. If he is Rhaella's son, then perhaps it is worth wondering if Arthur Dayne could be his father. Arthur sounds like a nearly perfect human, certainly quite good with a sword, and it's implied that he was intelligent. These qualities fit Young Griff.
I have wondered if it could have been Rhaella in the tower of joy. Most assume it was Lyanna, and other's speculate Ashara, but what if there was a great diversion when Rhaella left the Red Keep and it was she who traveled to the tower of joy while an impostor was sent to Dragonstone? I am not sure when she and SAD could have conceived a child, but the timeline is certainly a bit muddled. If Aerys is dead and Rhaegar is dead and his wife and children are all dead (or at least that is what we are told) then Rhaella and Viserys are what is left of the Targaryen dynasty. If Rhaella is giving birth to a child, then her child would also be an heir to the throne (well, they lost the throne, but still...)
I had been thinking that the child that Rhaella gave birth to was Aerys son, and that child was Young Griff, but it's possible the father of this child was not Aerys. Maybe Ser Arthur Dayne. You also have questioned Gerald Hightower, and that's possible. He was there at the toj also, and might have had access to Rhaella in the Red Keep and they could have been lovers and are probably close in age. Those three kingsguard at the toy might have been showing deference to the latest Targaryen heir, not Jon Snow the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna, but a son of Rhaella and someone. Even if a different man planted the seed, Rhaella could pass the child that she bore off as Aerys son. The lemon imagery could tie Young Griff and Arthur Dayne, which I rather like. Since we don't know what Arthur looked like, it's possible that he looked just like a Targaryen and just like Young Griff.
So, if speculating on Rhaella and Arthur Dayne having a child that could be Young Griff, is it possible that they could have had more than one child together. Could this be Gerald Dayne? He is mid twenties, so would have been around 10 at the start of the rebellion, just slightly older than Viserys. We know that Aerys speculated that Rhaella was cheating on him, and perhaps she was. We don't know how old Arthur Dayne was or when he came to the Red Keep, or when he became a member of the kingsguard. But perhaps a Rhaella/Arthur connection could have given us Gerold Dayne, and the bastard was sent to Dorne and given some old title and holding of the Dayne family??? Could Gerold Dayne suspect and that is one of the reasons he is bitter? IF he had been a legitimate child of SAD's he might be considered worthy of Dawn, but since he is a bastard, he is not considered worthy of that fabled Dayne family sword.
What if the dragon has three heads might connect to children of Targaryen/Dayne genes. What if Rhaella and Arthur Dayne could have had three children together? Gerold Dayne and Young Griff are possible, then who is the third? Dany certainly has child of three imagery around her, but how close in age are she and Young Griff? Could they be twins?
I fear I have fallen deep into the cracked pot territory now!
Welcome to rabbit hole ~~ as someone whose favorite character is Aegon, I want him to be really prince Aegon or win the Game tbh. But Rhaella having a baby is not out of realm. Both you and canitryto think Gerold Hightower could be Rhaella's son with Arthur, maybe that's why he is dangerous according to Doran? I suspect Martell's are Highly anti Valyrian and plans a Rhoynar-Andal dynasty for Westeros. If Doran wasn't a shady son of a, I would support them but I hate Dorne sans Elia and Daynes.
About Rhaella's babies, I would say again that she was against PTWP prophecy and tried to stop it. I suspect Ashara could be Shaena, Gerris Drinkwater could be Jaehaerys, there is the mystery of Daeron whose death is never listed, could he be Dareon?, and Rhaella may not give birth to a baby called Aegon in 272ac but information about a nameless child in 270ac (Gerold Hightower?) is curious. Or maybe she gave birth to "Aegon" in 272ac and didn't have a nameless child in 270ac.