It makes me wonder what Shaggydog is searching for?
Basically what's on the label. The aggravation is also Rickon who is searching... for his mother, for his siblings, and Rickon and Shaggydog are taking the seperation from everyone, to the heart. Including each other. That's my take on it. Maybe you are someone has a deeper reading?
Maybe Shaggydog is searching for the three eyed crow haha
None is fit to sit the Seastone Chair, much less the Iron Throne. No, to make an heir that's worthy of him, I need a different woman. When the kraken weds the dragon, brother, let all the world beware."
Who exactly is the "him" that Euron is convinced he needs to make an heir for? Doesn't seem like he's talking about making an heir for himself as he says "I" immediately afterwards. So it sounds like Euron is working for someone
Why the Seastone Chair, of course. He's named it George, and he has made him his pet. He will hold him and squeeze him and kiss him and pet him and love him for all times! :::
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
Twyin's discussion with Tyrion re: the planned marriage of Cersei to Willas Tyrell:
"When I first broached the match to him, Lord Tyrell seemed well enough disposed," his father said. "A day later all was changed. The old woman's work. She hectors her son unmercifully. Varys claims she told him that your sister was too old and too used for this precious one-legged grandson of hers."
"Cersei must have loved that." He laughed.
Lord Tywin gave him a chilly look. "She does not know. Nor will she. It is better for all of us if the offer was never made. See that you remember that, Tyrion. The offer was never made."
Recall that this is the second instance of Cersei being turned down as a suitable marriage match – the first one very public. Makes me wonder what she did in retaliation for the rejected offer she DID know about.
Also, dumping this here for future purposes. Not sure what I'm doing with it yet, but it will be important, I can feel it in my bones.
ACOK 41 - Tyrion
Tyrion looked down upon the farewells from the high deck of King Robert's Hammer, a great war galley of four hundred oars. Rob's Hammer, as her oarsmen called her, would form the main strength of Myrcella's escort. Lionstar, Bold Wind, and Lady Lyanna would sail with her as well.
It made Tyrion more than a little uneasy to detach so great a part of their already inadequate fleet, depleted as it was by the loss of all those ships that had sailed with Lord Stannis to Dragonstone and never returned, but Cersei would hear of nothing less. Perhaps she was wise. If the girl was captured before she reached Sunspear, the Dornish alliance would fall to pieces. So far Doran Martell had done no more than call his banners. Once Myrcella was safe in Braavos, he had pledged to move his strength to the high passes, where the threat might make some of the Marcher lords rethink their loyalties and give Stannis pause about marching north. It was purely a feint, however. The Martells would not commit to actual battle unless Dorne itself was attacked, and Stannis was not so great a fool. Though some of his bannermen may be, Tyrion reflected. I should think on that.
He cleared his throat. "You know your orders, Captain."
"I do, my lord. We are to follow the coast, staying always in sight of land, until we reach Crackclaw Point. From there we are to strike out across the narrow sea for Braavos. On no account are we to sail within sight of Dragonstone."
...
Once Myrcella reached Braavos, she ought to be safe. He was sending Ser Arys Oakheart as her sworn shield, and had engaged the Braavosi to bring her the rest of the way to Sunspear. Even Lord Stannis would hesitate to wake the anger of the greatest and most powerful of the Free Cities. Traveling from King's Landing to Dorne by way of Braavos was scarcely the most direct of routes, but it was the safest . . . or so he hoped.
Makes me wonder what she did in retaliation for the rejected offer she DID know about.
Seeing as Cersei at 15 somehow had enough power to get Jaime assigned to the Kingsguard, it is very weird. This girl has so much power, and the exchange makes it seem like something happened when Aerys turned down the Rhaegar-Cersei match that Tywin fears it happening again
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!
My thoughts exactly. I know she poisoned Harlan Grandison to get Jaime the KG position, and I have suspicions that she seduced more than one person to make that happen. But she was what, 10, when the first marriage match was proposed? What could she have done then (besides toss her friend in a well later)? Or did she harbor a grudge for the next 5-6 years?
My thoughts exactly. I know she poisoned Harlan Grandison to get Jaime the KG position, and I have suspicions that she seduced more than one person to make that happen. But she was what, 10, when the first marriage match was proposed? What could she have done then (besides toss her friend in a well later)? Or did she harbor a grudge for the next 5-6 years?
Many men fathered bastards. Catelyn had grown up with that knowledge. It came as no surprise to her, in the first year of her marriage, to learn that Ned had fathered a child on some girl chance met on campaign. He had a man's needs, after all, and they had spent that year apart, Ned off at war in the south while she remained safe in her father's castle at Riverrun. Her thoughts were more of Robb, the infant at her breast, than of the husband she scarcely knew. He was welcome to whatever solace he might find between battles. And if his seed quickened, she expected he would see to the child's needs. He did more than that. The Starks were not like other men. Ned brought his bastard home with him, and called him "son" for all the north to see. When the wars were over at last, and Catelyn rode to Winterfell, Jon and his wet nurse had already taken up residence.
"It came as no surprise to her, in the first year of her marriage, to learn that Ned had fathered a child on some girl chance met on campaign."
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but it almost seems as though Catelyn heard about Jon before she met him at Winterfell. Like she had heard that Ned fathered a bastard, but then she met him at Winterfell and was surprised that Jon was there. Not that Jon existed at all.
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but it almost seems as though Catelyn heard about Jon before she met him at Winterfell. Like she had heard that Ned fathered a bastard, but then she met him at Winterfell and was surprised that Jon was there. Not that Jon existed at all.
Were you the one who brought up that Jon likely arrived at WF separately than Ned? Trying to remember now who posted the evidence for that.
“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” ― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but it almost seems as though Catelyn heard about Jon before she met him at Winterfell. Like she had heard that Ned fathered a bastard, but then she met him at Winterfell and was surprised that Jon was there. Not that Jon existed at all.
Were you the one who brought up that Jon likely arrived at WF separately than Ned? Trying to remember now who posted the evidence for that.
Were you the one who brought up that Jon likely arrived at WF separately than Ned? Trying to remember now who posted the evidence for that.
Yeah me and WeaselPie. Here's Ned's known locations after Robert won the throne
"I came down on Storm's End to lift the siege," Ned told them, "and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them."
No mention of Jon with Ned at Storm's End.
In the dream his friends rode with him, as they had in life. Proud Martyn Cassel, Jory's father; faithful Theo Wull; Ethan Glover, who had been Brandon's squire; Ser Mark Ryswell, soft of speech and gentle of heart; the crannogman, Howland Reed; Lord Dustin on his great red stallion. Ned had known their faces as well as he knew his own once, but the years leech at a man's memories, even those he has vowed never to forget. In the dream they were only shadows, grey wraiths on horses made of mist.
No mention of Jon with Ned at the TOJ.
It would have to be his grandfather, for Jory's father was buried far to the south. Martyn Cassel had perished with the rest. Ned had pulled the tower down afterward, and used its bloody stones to build eight cairns upon the ridge. It was said that Rhaegar had named that place the tower of joy, but for Ned it was a bitter memory. They had been seven against three, yet only two had lived to ride away; Eddard Stark himself and the little crannogman, Howland Reed. He did not think it omened well that he should dream that dream again after so many years.
No mention of Jon with Ned after Ned leaves the TOJ.
They whispered of Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, deadliest of the seven knights of Aerys's Kingsguard, and of how their young lord had slain him in single combat. And they told how afterward Ned had carried Ser Arthur's sword back to the beautiful young sister who awaited him in a castle called Starfall on the shores of the Summer Sea. The Lady Ashara Dayne, tall and fair, with haunting violet eyes.
For this reason, the Swords of the Morning are all famous throughout the Seven Kingdoms. There are boys who secretly dream of being a son of Starfall so they might claim that storied sword and its title. Most famous of all was Ser Arthur Dayne, the deadliest of King Aerys II's Kingsguard, who defeated the Kingswood Brotherhood and won renown in every tourney and mêlée. He died nobly with his sworn brothers at the end of Robert's Rebellion, after Lord Eddard Stark was said to have killed him in single combat. Lord Stark then returned Dawn to Starfall, and to Ser Arthur's kin, as a sign of respect.
No mention of Jon with Ned after Ned goes to Starfall. Now you might think that him being Edric's milk brother according to Edric means he was at Starfall, but not quite.
"Jon Snow's mother. He never told you? She's served us for years and years. Since before I was born."
Edric only says that Wylla's been serving the Daynes since 287 when he was born. Jon's born in 283. We've got 4 years that could have gone by between Wylla nursing Jon and Wylla nursing Edric who was definitely in Starfall. Nothing says she has to have been working with the Daynes in Starfall in 283 and therefore Jon was in Starfall.
Eddard Stark had ridden out that very day in a cold rage, to fight the last battles of the war alone in the south. It had taken another death to reconcile them; Lyanna's death, and the grief they had shared over her passing.
No mention of Jon with Ned after Ned goes to King's Landing.
"Ned Stark returned the horse to me on his way back home to Winterfell. He told me that my lord had died an honorable death, that his body had been laid to rest beneath the red mountains of Dorne. He brought his sister's bones back north, though, and there she rests … but I promise you, Lord Eddard's bones will never rest beside hers. I mean to feed them to my dogs."
No mention of Jon with Ned after Ned goes to Barrowton.
She remembered her own childish disappointment, the first time she had laid eyes on Eddard Stark. She had pictured him as a younger version of his brother Brandon, but that was wrong. Ned was shorter and plainer of face, and so somber. He spoke courteously enough, but beneath the words she sensed a coolness that was all at odds with Brandon, whose mirths had been as wild as his rages. Even when he took her maidenhood, their love had more of duty to it than of passion.
And one day fifteen years ago, this second father had become a brother as well, as he and Ned stood together in the sept at Riverrun to wed two sisters, the daughters of Lord Hoster Tully.
Many men fathered bastards. Catelyn had grown up with that knowledge. It came as no surprise to her, in the first year of her marriage, to learn that Ned had fathered a child on some girl chance met on campaign. He had a man's needs, after all, and they had spent that year apart, Ned off at war in the south while she remained safe in her father's castle at Riverrun.
"Gods have mercy," Ser Brynden exclaimed when he saw what lay before them. "This is Moat Cailin? It's no more than a—" "—death trap," Catelyn finished. "I know how it looks, Uncle. I thought the same the first time I saw it, but Ned assured me that this ruin is more formidable than it seems. The three surviving towers command the causeway from all sides, and any enemy must pass between them. The bogs here are impenetrable, full of quicksands and suckholes and teeming with snakes. To assault any of the towers, an army would need to wade through waist-deep black muck, cross a moat full of lizard-lions, and scale walls slimy with moss, all the while exposing themselves to fire from archers in the other towers." She gave her uncle a grim smile. "And when night falls, there are said to be ghosts, cold vengeful spirits of the north who hunger for southron blood."
No mention of Jon with Ned when Ned goes to Riverrun to fetch Catelyn and return with her to Winterfell after the war.
We have absolutely no idea where Jon came from before he's there in Winterfell. Jon literally just pops up in Winterfell.
He did more than that. The Starks were not like other men. Ned brought his bastard home with him, and called him "son" for all the north to see. When the wars were over at last, and Catelyn rode to Winterfell, Jon and his wet nurse had already taken up residence.
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!