“NO!” Lysa gave Sansa’s head another wrench. Snow eddied around them, making their skirts snap noisily. “You can’t want her. You can’t. She’s a stupid empty-headed little girl. She doesn’t love you the way I have. I’ve always loved you. I’ve proved it, haven’t I?” Tears ran down her aunt’s puffy red face. “I gave you my maiden’s gift. I would have given you a son too, but they murdered him with moon tea, with tansy and mint and wormwood , a spoon of honey and a drop of pennyroyal . It wasn’t me, I never knew, I only drank what Father gave me…”
“That’s past and done, Lysa. Lord Hoster’s dead, and his old maester as well.”Littlefinger moved closer. “Have you been at the wine again? You ought not to talk so much. We don’t want Alayne to know more than she should, do we? Or Marillion?”
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
I think that the simplest explanation is that whatever magic binds the ww together also binds their weapons to them. If that spell is broken, the connection to the weapon is broken as well, allowing it to melt away just the same as the ww.
Slowly catching up on this thread...
Want to agree with the above, and point out that while the spell holding Ser Puddles together was certainly broken by Sam's dagger, no such death is ever mentioned for the Night's King. This has always stuck out to me, along with certain other passages that seem to hint at a half-forgotten demon-king out of legend calling his banners beyond the Wall, of which there are many. Something else that has always seemed strange to me is the forbidding of his name. Why do this if he has been killed? Seems rather Voldemorty to me. Exile is far more foreboding.
Exactly! And it's when she pretends to be that perfect Lady that little can touch her. She's actually more pleasing to Joff and Cersei and gives them less reason to harm her. Plus she's able to soothe others like Sandor through her courtesy changing his future reactions.
Arya does this too, as did their father. The face of Lord Stark's daughter, the face of Roose's cup bearer, the face of Mercy. I'm guessing Lyanna knew how to use her Lady's face when needed, as well as her needles.
The first time his name is mentioned (he's squiring for Beric in the fight with the Hound), Arya gets goosebumps at the sound of "Ned."
Before the first time he is mentioned, the Lord of Starfall is squiring for a knight with stars and purple on his heraldry as he rides to a tourney in which a she-wolf is given a rose. The she-wolf's father later charges the lightning lord with a duty to protect people in the Riverlands, and strike the Mountain.
Later, this same lord will rescue the Lady of Winterfell from death, and kiss her...while a she-wolf prowls.
The idea that following the old codes has power. Not invincibility, but power. "Our ways are the old ways." They keep us safe. Keep those around us safe (Sansa's saving Dontos, Sansa's singing to and calming the Hound--by singing a song connected to religious ritual).
Makes me wonder if the songs of religious ritual are the only thing that can calm the song of battle. I speak, as ever, of the Battle for the Dawn.
As Light battles Dark, and a new day begins, it is the Little Birds who mark the occasion with song.
Okay--this is probably too cute with the associations, but after protesting and saying "no" and flailing, Sansa only finds Lysa's braid after she feels the snowflakes melt on her cheeks. As she feels the snow giving her lover's kisses in the garden. Only finds the braid after the snowflakes. So--snow= power?
I don't think it's too cute at all. Fire, the visible combustion of fuel, is often identified as powerful. Why wouldn't the other end of the spectrum be?
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
It just got my protective instincts going. Unfortunately, I couldn't come up with a better way to say it or anything else that would have strengthened your interpretation.
I'm still struggling to get it clear in my own head. So, not surprised others were struggling to figure out my ramblings. As for the protective instinct:
I haven't had a chance to read her latest post all the way through. I really need to make the time to do that. I really like a lot of her ideas. I'm not sure that I agree with all of her interpretations, but there's always some great observations there. I just wonder. Are we looking for too many natural disasters? I think that we're already going to lose the wall and all of the related damage that would occur with that. I think that there's a fair amount of set up for the avalanche in the Vale. How much more do we need? Fire v. Ice is already giving us a good reason to expect floods. Or is this all just meant to be another Ragnarok?
I'm not sure about the Ragnarok, either. Or if we'll just have a snow slide and a bunch of Burned Men.
But I think there's a good chance Martin is setting up how Sansa will get out. In Dance, Davos finds out that when Aerys called for Ned's head, Jon Arryn refused. Ned couldn't escape the normal way--Gulltown was loyal to Aerys. So, Ned escaped via the Mountains of the Moon to the Fingers. Then crossed the Bite to the Sisters. Which frequently sends ships to White Harbor.
Now, how did Ned manage that, given the fierceness of the clans? Did they in some way respect him as the Northern clans do? Something else?
And if we look at our non-canonical World Book, seems to me that there are some pretty nasty families in the Dornish passages that claim a magical background. But I'm also thinking that might be true for the majority of Westeros period.
It really does come back to that, over and over: the old is new again. NOT the newer Andals and the complete interlopers the Targs.
made the same one. Then deleted it because I had absolutely no idea what to do with that random observation.
And after thinking it over, best I've got is that Lysa has a fair amount of self-loathing and insecurity that she takes out on family.
Or, Martin has fantasies about red-heads having Cat-fights with hair-pulling.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Before the first time he is mentioned, the Lord of Starfall is squiring for a knight with stars and purple on his heraldry as he rides to a tourney in which a she-wolf is given a rose. The she-wolf's father later charges the lightning lord with a duty to protect people in the Riverlands, and strike the Mountain.
Later, this same lord will rescue the Lady of Winterfell from death, and kiss her...while a she-wolf prowls.
I don't think it's too cute at all. Fire, the visible combustion of fuel, is often identified as powerful. Why wouldn't the other end of the spectrum be?
So, not "wake the Dragon." But "Wake the Snowflake!" Because "Wake the Flake!" sounds like a dandruff commercial.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
“Be quiet!” her aunt screamed . “I never gave you leave to speak. No one cares about your castle.”
“She’s a child, Lysa. Cat’s daughter. What did you think you were doing?”
“I was going to marry her to Robert! She has no gratitude. No … no decency. You are not hers to kiss. Not hers! I was teaching her a lesson, that was all.”
“I see.” He stroked his chin. “I think she understands now. Isn’t that so, Alayne?”
“Yes,” sobbed Sansa. “I understand.”
Interesting--Sansa's figured out long ago how to deal with crazy. Hanging out the door is a bit too much. But note that she snaps back into courtesy mode once things calm down just the tiniest bit. And it works.
“I don’t want her here.” Her aunt’s eyes were shiny with tears. “Why did you bring her to the Vale, Petyr? This isn’t her place. She doesn’t belong here.”
If this is an echo of Ashara--yes, Starfall would not be Lyanna's place. And, if my hunch is right an Arthur took Lyanna to Starfall to get her away from the Targs, he put his family at risk from both sides in the war.
Irony for Lysa--the Vale is not her place, either. She's misunderstood the Vale lords and their loyalties. And she's massively misunderstood Littlefinger. Handing him a method to kill her that will make his ascendancy easy.
“NO!” Lysa gave Sansa’s head another wrench. Snow eddied around them, making their skirts snap noisily. “You can’t want her. You can’t. She’s a stupid empty-headed little girl. She doesn’t love you the way I have. I’ve always loved you. I’ve proved it, haven’t I?” Tears ran down her aunt’s puffy red face. “I gave you my maiden’s gift. I would have given you a son too, but they murdered him with moon tea, with tansy and mint and wormwood , a spoon of honey and a drop of pennyroyal . It wasn’t me, I never knew, I only drank what Father gave me…”
Ah, Lysa. Queen of the overshare. And the horrors of commodifying women's and girls' sexuality.
The father's betrayal taking her child. . . could something similar have happened to Ashara? But, if so, how would the rumor get out? People do stuff like that to avoid the rumor. No--am hoping, based on Edric, Ashara, and Arthur's descriptions that the Lord of Starfall wasn't horrible.
“That’s past and done, Lysa. Lord Hoster’s dead, and his old maester as well.”Littlefinger moved closer. “Have you been at the wine again? You ought not to talk so much. We don’t want Alayne to know more than she should, do we? Or Marillion?”
Wait--is this part of why he kills Lysa here? Not just because of the crazy, but because they are all alone and he can also get rid of Marillion who knows too much? Kill two birds by dropping them on one really big stone?
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Want to agree with the above, and point out that while the spell holding Ser Puddles together was certainly broken by Sam's dagger, no such death is ever mentioned for the Night's King. This has always stuck out to me, along with certain other passages that seem to hint at a half-forgotten demon-king out of legend calling his banners beyond the Wall, of which there are many. Something else that has always seemed strange to me is the forbidding of his name. Why do this if he has been killed? Seems rather Voldemorty to me. Exile is far more foreboding.
I think we've discussed this before, but I'm pretty much with you on this one.
Arya does this too, as did their father. The face of Lord Stark's daughter, the face of Roose's cup bearer, the face of Mercy. I'm guessing Lyanna knew how to use her Lady's face when needed, as well as her needles.
As high Lords and Ladies this is certainly something that they have all been trained in, but Sansa seems to take it to the next level. She truly uses her courtesy as her armor and her main method of self-defense.
But I think there's a good chance Martin is setting up how Sansa will get out. In Dance, Davos finds out that when Aerys called for Ned's head, Jon Arryn refused. Ned couldn't escape the normal way--Gulltown was loyal to Aerys. So, Ned escaped via the Mountains of the Moon to the Fingers. Then crossed the Bite to the Sisters. Which frequently sends ships to White Harbor.
Now, how did Ned manage that, given the fierceness of the clans? Did they in some way respect him as the Northern clans do? Something else?
Never really thought about it. I think that I just assumed that he would have had a large enough escort for the clans not to be an issue, if they even were as big a problem at that time. It certainly could be an issue for Sansa.
Interesting--Sansa's figured out long ago how to deal with crazy. Hanging out the door is a bit too much. But note that she snaps back into courtesy mode once things calm down just the tiniest bit. And it works.
this is an echo of Ashara--yes, Starfall would not be Lyanna's place. And, if my hunch is right an Arthur took Lyanna to Starfall to get her away from the Targs, he put his family at risk from both sides in the war.
::i agree:: Also makes me wonder even more about the good will the Daynes seem to show towards the Starks.
Irony for Lysa--the Vale is not her place, either. She's misunderstood the Vale lords and their loyalties. And she's massively misunderstood Littlefinger. Handing him a method to kill her that will make his ascendancy easy.
I'm not sure Lysa really understands much of anything other than maybe what Lysa wants.
he father's betrayal taking her child. . . could something similar have happened to Ashara? But, if so, how would the rumor get out? People do stuff like that to avoid the rumor. No--am hoping, based on Edric, Ashara, and Arthur's descriptions that the Lord of Starfall wasn't horrible.
I wondered the same thing at first. At this point I'm inclined to believe that either she really did miscarry without outside interference or the baby ended up as part of an elaborate baby swap.
Wait--is this part of why he kills Lysa here? Not just because of the crazy, but because they are all alone and he can also get rid of Marillion who knows too much? Kill two birds by dropping them on one really big stone?
It certainly does work in his favor, doesn't it?
ETA: I do wonder what difference it really would make for a secret as old as that one to be revealed? Then again, Lysa does continue to reveal more and more.
Last Edit: Dec 16, 2015 3:29:39 GMT by Lady Dyanna
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
Lady Lysa ignored that . “Cat never gave you anything. It was me who got you your first post, who made Jon bring you to court so we could be close to one another. You promised me you would never forget that.”
“Nor have I. We’re together, just as you always wanted, just as we always planned. Just let go of Sansa’s hair…”
“I won’t! I saw you kissing in the snow. She’s just like her mother. Catelyn kissed you in the godswood, but she never meant it, she never wanted you. Why did you love her best? It was me, it was always meeee!”
“I know, love.” He took another step. “And I am here. All you need to do is take my hand, come on.” He held it out to her. “There’s no cause for all these tears.”
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
I think that I might be having an epiphany moment. THIS ENTIRE ECHO IS COMPLETELY INVERTED!!!
Lady Lysa ignored that . “Cat never gave you anything. It was me who got you your first post, who made Jon bring you to court so we could be close to one another. You promised me you would never forget that.”
I wasn't able to give you anything. It was Catelyn who provided you with an army to keep the head on your shoulders.
“Nor have I. We’re together, just as you always wanted, just as we always planned. Just let go of Sansa’s hair…”
We CAN'T be together as we wanted/planned.
“I won’t! I saw you kissing in the snow. She’s just like her mother. Catelyn kissed you in the godswood, but she never meant it, she never wanted you. Why did you love her best? It was me, it was always meeee!”
You need to move forward and try to love her the best.
“I know, love.” He took another step. “And I am here. All you need to do is take my hand, come on.” He held it out to her. “There’s no cause for all these tears.”
There is plenty of cause for tears.
If any of this holds true and things truly are inverted, it would stand to reason that she gave birth to Ned's live daughter. Dany? Allyria? I've lost my mind, again... :::
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
I think that I might be having an epiphany moment. THIS ENTIRE ECHO IS COMPLETELY INVERTED!!!
Lady Lysa ignored that . “Cat never gave you anything. It was me who got you your first post, who made Jon bring you to court so we could be close to one another. You promised me you would never forget that.”
I wasn't able to give you anything. It was Catelyn who provided you with an army to keep the head on your shoulders.
“Nor have I. We’re together, just as you always wanted, just as we always planned. Just let go of Sansa’s hair…”
We CAN'T be together as we wanted/planned.
“I won’t! I saw you kissing in the snow. She’s just like her mother. Catelyn kissed you in the godswood, but she never meant it, she never wanted you. Why did you love her best? It was me, it was always meeee!”
You need to move forward and try to love her the best.
“I know, love.” He took another step. “And I am here. All you need to do is take my hand, come on.” He held it out to her. “There’s no cause for all these tears.”
There is plenty of cause for tears.
If any of this holds true and things truly are inverted, it would stand to reason that she gave birth to Ned's live daughter. Dany? Allyria? I've lost my mind, again... :::
::: Okay--I need to think about this a bit. But so far, I'm liking this. The inversion comes from the different personalities and intent.
And if there's a daughter, and she's alive and we have heard her name--I'm going with Allyria. She's been told these romantic stories about Ned and Ashara that she's repeated to Edric.
Also on the potential for echoes--Littlefinger brings Sansa to the Eyrie with its white towers, pretending Sansa is his daughter. So, Ned finds out he has a child for real after coming to Starfall?
Was also noticing that Littlefinger first takes Sansa to the fingers and his unnamed tower. Which is actually inhabited by a staff. An echo of the tower of joy? Perhaps they did stay there first? Though, if so, why sail?
Far too speculative for me to get anywhere. Now just need to think on what you wrote.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
I think that I might be having an epiphany moment. THIS ENTIRE ECHO IS COMPLETELY INVERTED!!!I wasn't able to give you anything. It was Catelyn who provided you with an army to keep the head on your shoulders. We CAN'T be together as we wanted/planned. You need to move forward and try to love her the best. There is plenty of cause for tears.
If any of this holds true and things truly are inverted, it would stand to reason that she gave birth to Ned's live daughter. Dany? Allyria? I've lost my mind, again... :::
::: Okay--I need to think about this a bit. But so far, I'm liking this. The inversion comes from the different personalities and intent.
And if there's a daughter, and she's alive and we have heard her name--I'm going with Allyria. She's been told these romantic stories about Ned and Ashara that she's repeated to Edric.
Also on the potential for echoes--Littlefinger brings Sansa to the Eyrie with its white towers, pretending Sansa is his daughter. So, Ned finds out he has a child for real after coming to Starfall?
Was also noticing that Littlefinger first takes Sansa to the fingers and his unnamed tower. Which is actually inhabited by a staff. An echo of the tower of joy? Perhaps they did stay there first? Though, if so, why sail?
Far too speculative for me to get anywhere. Now just need to think on what you wrote.
So, I have now talked myself out of and back into my idea more times than I can count. I think that I let Julia over at W get into my head with the Bael argument. That in turn makes me question if we are labeling our characters correctly for the echo, especially Littlefinger and Marillion. I've been torn from the beginning as to which of them truly represented Rhaegar. Marillion seems the most obvious, but there are different things from Littlefinger that fit the bard role as well. But then there's also that instinct about Ned. And all of us have compared the two multiple times throughout the thread. One other thing. If this parallels what happens after the war, why would we have a Rhaegar echo. Isn't he dead? And what about Arthur?
I do like what you're saying about the Fingers and the comparison to the TOJ. Lysa also threatens to send Sansa back there too. And I would imagine that they might have left the TOJ for similar reasons as to why Littlefinger left the Fingers.
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
::: Okay--I need to think about this a bit. But so far, I'm liking this. The inversion comes from the different personalities and intent.
And if there's a daughter, and she's alive and we have heard her name--I'm going with Allyria. She's been told these romantic stories about Ned and Ashara that she's repeated to Edric.
Also on the potential for echoes--Littlefinger brings Sansa to the Eyrie with its white towers, pretending Sansa is his daughter. So, Ned finds out he has a child for real after coming to Starfall?
Was also noticing that Littlefinger first takes Sansa to the fingers and his unnamed tower. Which is actually inhabited by a staff. An echo of the tower of joy? Perhaps they did stay there first? Though, if so, why sail?
Far too speculative for me to get anywhere. Now just need to think on what you wrote.
So, I have now talked myself out of and back into my idea more times than I can count. I think that I let Julia over at W get into my head with the Bael argument. That in turn makes me question if we are labeling our characters correctly for the echo, especially Littlefinger and Marillion. I've been torn from the beginning as to which of them truly represented Rhaegar. Marillion seems the most obvious, but there are different things from Littlefinger that fit the bard role as well. But then there's also that instinct about Ned. And all of us have compared the two multiple times throughout the thread. One other thing. If this parallels what happens after the war, why would we have a Rhaegar echo. Isn't he dead? And what about Arthur?
I do like what you're saying about the Fingers and the comparison to the TOJ. Lysa also threatens to send Sansa back there too. And I would imagine that they might have left the TOJ for similar reasons as to why Littlefinger left the Fingers.
I keep slogging at this, and so far I've got:
From Game, Mance is the King Beyond the Wall, seen as a potential problem to be dealt with by the Stark in Winterfell.
From Game: Bael-ish is the schemer with a BIG issue with Brandon the Breathless. Pretends to help Lord Stark and then betrays him and begins influencing his daughter.
From Clash: Mance is compared to Bael. Abel as schemer paying back an insult--a process that ends in a child and future disaster.
From Clash: Baelish influences Sansa. Sansa is helped by a fool who plays the role of a figure from a song.
From Storm: Mance's story of going to Winterfell echoes the Bael story. Engages Jon in fight against the Wall and the North.
From Storm: Baelish is revealed to have been pulling Dontos' strings the whole time. And then uses a bard to cover his political machinations.
From Feast: Baelish ups his influence on Sansa.
From Dance: Mance pulls a reverse Bael--breaks into Winterfell, in league with a Stark, to steal a fake Stark maiden from a Stark usurper.
There are a lot more details--I should probably just open a Bael thread here so we can slog through it.
As for who represents Rhaegar--right now, my money's on the Blue Bard. Not a prince, no--but clearly used as political leverage by the Mad King echo. Against an imitation Lyanna. Against the imitation Lyanna's family. Wouldn't think and imitation would hold that much weight, but, I have a growing hunch that Martin ONLY put the Blue Bard in to give us the outline of what happened with Aerys, Rhaegar, and Lyanna. Knowing we'd ignore it because it's a "counterfeit." And not notice that the ONLY use of the word Bard, in the novel with no mention of Lyanna's name. . . something's up.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
There are a lot more details--I should probably just open a Bael thread here so we can slog through it.
Feel free to use this thread or the echo thread until you get a chance. Eventually we will have to divide out the connected echoes in order to compare them easier, but until then... I'm thinking that we're going to need to nitpick through the specific quotes in order to make sense of it all instead of just the general overview, although that is helpful too.
As for who represents Rhaegar--right now, my money's on the Blue Bard. Not a prince, no--but clearly used as political leverage by the Mad King echo. Against an imitation Lyanna. Against the imitation Lyanna's family. Wouldn't think and imitation would hold that much weight, but, I have a growing hunch that Martin ONLY put the Blue Bard in to give us the outline of what happened with Aerys, Rhaegar, and Lyanna. Knowing we'd ignore it because it's a "counterfeit." And not notice that the ONLY use of the word Bard, in the novel with no mention of Lyanna's name. . . something's up.
This whole thing is giving me a headache. Part of it is that it's not going to be quite that simple. Different characters play different roles at different times. Ugh!
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
“Tears, tears, tears,” she sobbed hysterically. “No need for tears … but that’s not what you said in King’s Landing. You told me to put the tears in Jon’s wine, and I did. For Robert, and for us! And I wrote Catelyn and told her the Lannisters had killed my lord husband, just as you said. That was so clever … you were always clever, I told Father that, I said Petyr’s so clever, he’ll rise high, he will, he will, and he’s sweet and gentle and I have his little baby in my belly … Why did you kiss her? Why? We’re together now, we’re together after so long, so very long, why would you want to kiss herrrrrr?”
“Lysa,”Petyr sighed, “after all the storms we’ve suffered, you should trust me better. I swear, I shall never leave your side again, for as long as we both shall live.”“Truly?”she asked, weeping. “Oh, truly?”“Truly. Now unhand the girl and come give me a kiss.”
Lysa threw herself into Littlefinger’s arms, sobbing. As they hugged, Sansa crawled from the Moon Door on hands and knees and wrapped her arms around the nearest pillar. She could feel her heart pounding. There was snow in her hair and her right shoe was missing. It must have fallen. She shuddered, and hugged the pillar tighter.
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
Feel free to use this thread or the echo thread until you get a chance. Eventually we will have to divide out the connected echoes in order to compare them easier, but until then... I'm thinking that we're going to need to nitpick through the specific quotes in order to make sense of it all instead of just the general overview, although that is helpful too.
If the echo thread hasn't covered it when I get back I will do so.
This whole thing is giving me a headache. Part of it is that it's not going to be quite that simple. Different characters play different roles at different times. Ugh!
I agree--but I am buying that at its core, the Bael story is about striking a political blow. Using, at times, the talents of a singer. . . . after that, it gets murky.
“Tears, tears, tears,” she sobbed hysterically. “No need for tears … but that’s not what you said in King’s Landing. You told me to put the tears in Jon’s wine, and I did. For Robert, and for us! And I wrote Catelyn and told her the Lannisters had killed my lord husband, just as you said. That was so clever … you were always clever, I told Father that, I said Petyr’s so clever, he’ll rise high, he will, he will, and he’s sweet and gentle and I have his little baby in my belly … Why did you kiss her? Why? We’re together now, we’re together after so long, so very long, why would you want to kiss herrrrrr?”
Bael-ish the schemer. The power monger. But, oddly, not the true love.
Now, we are getting all of this from Sansa's POV--so does that imply she fully heard all of this and just hasn't processed it?
“Lysa,”Petyr sighed, “after all the storms we’ve suffered, you should trust me better. I swear, I shall never leave your side again, for as long as we both shall live.”“Truly?”she asked, weeping. “Oh, truly?”“Truly. Now unhand the girl and come give me a kiss.”
Well, I guess he doesn't technically leave her side so much as throw her from his.
Lysa threw herself into Littlefinger’s arms, sobbing. As they hugged, Sansa crawled from the Moon Door on hands and knees and wrapped her arms around the nearest pillar. She could feel her heart pounding. There was snow in her hair and her right shoe was missing. It must have fallen. She shuddered, and hugged the pillar tighter.
First up, Lysa would have done better hugging the pillar, too. The marble pillar, yes? Hmmm
Second--the Moon Maid crawls from the Moon door. Rejecting her moon-maid status? Made stronger by it? The snow in her hair seems to label her a snow maid, again. Though Bael-ish is now the decider of fates. Choosing the sacrifice. So--how long will he hold that "office?"
Lady Dyanna--some things have come up and I'm not going to be able to play on the boards until they get taken care of/dealt with. Not sure how long that will be. So, if I don't respond--I'm not avoiding. I'm just well tied up. And I will miss you--all. Have a fabulous Christmas and New Year's!!! Hopefully, I'll be back to bother you soon.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.