PJ's Deeper Dorne series

Part 7 is here

I've been following along with it and would love to discuss it! There's a lot to chew on for sure. I think I missed some of the early videos though. 

This I'm sure of. Too many things Preston pointed out to simply be coincidence.



Jesus that would certainly be a massive mindfuck. And you know, it's not like we actually ever got Daario's age, hence part of the problem with actually figuring out who he's supposed to be if "Daario" is a disguise. And we don't know what Mellario at all looks like as we've never met her, simply her children... who all inherited the Dornish look. Which tells us nothing about what Mellario looked like, and what features she could've passed on. So it wouldn't be the oddest thing in the world if one of them actually looked like their mother, but we never knew it, and thus technically speaking Daario actually could look exactly how a Martell/Norvosi should look.

Not to mention I find it passingly odd that none of Doran's kids are at all like Oberyn. Or even Lewyn. I suppose one could argue Arianne is based off her rashness (though she's not actually that rash, she waited months for Arys after all), but it seems odd to me that Oberyn not only essentially has nothing in common with Doran's kids, but that he also never really spent any time with them. We know he extensively trained his daughters, as well as a bunch of squires, but where's the same attitude to his brothers sons? Why weren't Quentyn and Trystane ever trained by Oberyn? Quentyn was fostered away sure, but he still had to come home every now and then. But the only thing we've got is that Oberyn offered to knight Quentyn when he was 18 and had passed his tests, but Quentyn instead favoured being knighted by Lord Yronwood. Which really shows that Oberyn had nothing to do with any of his training, whereas Yronwood did and thus Quentyn wanted it from him instead.

On the other hand though, Daario is essentially a Free Cities Oberyn. Same flamboyant attitude, same skill at arms, same interest in woman, etc. He really would make sense as a secret Martell, just simply he's the one who favoured Oberyn.

Not sure if any of that's even possible, but would be funny if Dany had been fucking Quentyn this whole time, and then rejected the fake one



I saw one comment made that perhaps Doran is also simply not playing at all. If he only plays to win, and he's the Seven Kingdoms could beat Dorne, then he's sitting everything out because he knows he wouldn't win.

I don't agree with that as he's clearly doing stuff, but could also explain why he's not really actively striking.

I will too.



That's prestonjacobs for ya.  

(He did bring up "...for a single yesterday" in one of his 1000 Worlds vids though, which actually isn't a part of the 1000 Worlds, but a thread he participated in here...so that was pretty cool. Now I just need to convince him that The Lonely Songs of Laren Dorr and With Morning Comes Mistfall are indeed a part of the 1000 worlds universe as well.)



Yeah, I'm sold on this one too. Marwyn even sounds like a Dornish name, but that might be a racist thing to say. LOL



Need Oberyn only have the one?



This is just brilliant. 



Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the latter as well. But it may well be that Doran is doing what so many others have done, and attempting to reclaim the King-title for his people. 



Would like to hear more of your thoughts on this.



Well that was quite a bit! Great food for thought Wraith ! 

My mind might be getting rusty in Dornish matters, but happy to try. 😊

Interesting notion. This is the first time I have heard about the Tal Toraq theory. I don't think Marwyn has arrived yet. The story makes a strong point on how hard it is to get to Mereen with that blockade.