I cannot imagine why they left out Strong Belwas, but I love Missandei's translation of the champion's words.
This is one trimming I understand. Strong Belwas would mean: another actor to pay who does little to contribute to the story and whose job can be given to another.
I cannot imagine why they left out Strong Belwas, but I love Missandei's translation of the champion's words.
This is one trimming I understand. Strong Belwas would mean: another actor to pay who does little to contribute to the story and whose job can be given to another.
Idk man. It's not like they're worrying about hiring additional actors when there's another Lannister to cast.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
This is one trimming I understand. Strong Belwas would mean: another actor to pay who does little to contribute to the story and whose job can be given to another.
Idk man. It's not like they're worrying about hiring additional actors when there's another Lannister to cast.
What extra Lannister have they cast that they could not have?
Tywin - prominent character in Season One who became necessary in later seasons Jaime - necessary character Cersei - necessary character Tyrion - necessary character Kevan - prominent character who gave Tywin someone to talk to in Season One, and later necessary because of his importance post-Tywin Lancel - necessary because he kills Robert with Wine, manipulated by Tyrion and a spy for him, and later important with the Sparrows & Faith Militant
Other than those six, we haven't seen any additional Lannisters. They've trimmed the Lannisters down to only the necessary ones, with Kevan ultimately being the only one that can be argued to be expendable being Kevan, and Season 6 promises for Kevan not to be expendable.
Idk man. It's not like they're worrying about hiring additional actors when there's another Lannister to cast.
What extra Lannister have they cast that they could not have?
Tywin - prominent character Jaime - necessary character Cersei - necessary character Tyrion - necessary character Kevan - prominent character who gave Tywin someone to talk to in Season One, and later necessary because of his importance post-Tywin Lancel - necessary because he kills Robert with Wine, and later with the Sparrows
Other than those six, we haven't seen any additional Lannisters, they've trimmed the Lannisters down to only the necessary ones.
The two boys Rickard killed, the elder of whom became Tommen.
But I meant it more as a KL generalization. Feels like the other regions are sacrificed for the sake of KL accuracy, and that the reverse rarely happens.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
What extra Lannister have they cast that they could not have?
Tywin - prominent character Jaime - necessary character Cersei - necessary character Tyrion - necessary character Kevan - prominent character who gave Tywin someone to talk to in Season One, and later necessary because of his importance post-Tywin Lancel - necessary because he kills Robert with Wine, and later with the Sparrows
Other than those six, we haven't seen any additional Lannisters, they've trimmed the Lannisters down to only the necessary ones.
The two boys Rickard killed, the elder of whom became Tommen.
But I meant it more as a KL generalization. Feels like the other regions are sacrificed for the sake of KL accuracy, and that the reverse rarely happens.
Ahh yes, but they were necessary for the Karstark plot, which was necessary for Robb's plot.
Actually, they trimmed down King's Landing a bit in Season 5, cutting out Lady Merryweather (who I missed). But beyond her, there's been other cuts over the seasons: Ser Aron Santagar, the Summer Isles' exiled prince, the Rosbys, the Stokeworths (well they get mentioned and we see Lollys for some reason despite her adding nothing doing so), Tygett's son, Ermensande Hayford, the rest of the Kingsguards as characters, the Kettleblacks, etc.
So I wouldn't say that KL is 100% accurate.
In any case Strong Belwas did four things in the novels of note:
He was Barristan's deliverer, but also as part of his disguise to help him get close to Dany to observe her before swearing to her. In the show, Barristan delivered himself, and skipped the approaching her in disguise route.
He attacks a noble-born Meereenese boy who wants revenge for his family's murders and the sacking of his pyramid. Anyone can intimidate such a boy, but the show didn't bother to adapt the situation.
He defeats Meereen's champion for Dany. The show can easily give that to Daario to amp up the Dany/Daario romance and interactions.
He eats the poisoned locusts instead of Dany. Considering that the show dropped the locusts and trimmed a lot of the Meereenese plotting in favor of more Sons of the Harpy, it seems the need for Strong Belwas to eat the locusts isn't needed.
Beyond that he says funny one liners every now and then in the books, but is mostly there in the background to intimidate any who get in Dany's way, which on the show Barristan fills that role. In truth, Strong Belwas adds very little to the plot. He's a nice side character who adds flavor to the story, a nice spice that's been seasoned onto the leg of lamb, but he hasn't had that much of an impact on Dany's story that other characters can't fulfill instead of him.
I like Strong Belwas, but as he's written in the books there's very little case there for adapting him beyond either book purity or "he'd be awesome to have". He does just enough to be a notable character and a bit of a book fan favorite, but beyond that, he's replaceable and his roles can easily be absorbed by other characters.
Ahh yes, but they were necessary for the Karstark plot, which was necessary for Robb's plot.
Both of them?
I take your point though, and agree. I do not mean to suggest that KL is 100% accurate. It is just feels more like book KL than does the North or Meereen. Strong Belwas is important, to me, because he demonstrates that Illyrio is still a player in the game. The same can be said of Aegon - whether real or fake.
It is the same as my issue with replacing Coldhands with some old book. Granted, characters such as these might not be as important as Shae, but I do think they are as important as the boys Rickard slew. Their presence and interaction makes us wonder about the larger picture and older games, which may prove of far more consequence than Lancel's piety or Loras' love life.
Just my two coppers.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Ahh yes, but they were necessary for the Karstark plot, which was necessary for Robb's plot.
Both of them?
I take your point though, and agree. I do not mean to suggest that KL is 100% accurate. It is just feels more like book KL than does the North or Meereen. Strong Belwas is important, to me, because he demonstrates that Illyrio is still a player in the game. The same can be said of Aegon - whether real or fake.
It is the same as my issue with replacing Coldhands with some old book. Granted, characters such as these might not be as important as Shae, but I do think they are as important as the boys Rickard slew. Their presence and interaction makes us wonder about the larger picture and older games, which may prove of far more consequence than Lancel's piety or Loras' love life.
Just my two coppers.
I would not disagree with this, that some characters are good for the setting, in which case they become living set pieces, and while a novel can get away with those things, a film, TV show, and even a play have to use those characters sparingly, because studio executives, producers, etc. are going to complain about paying yet another actor SAG wages for just being a living set piece than is necessary.
I also think that D&D care far more about the game of thrones plot than they do either about the Others or Dany in general, because it interests them far more than either the Others or Dany does.