I wanted to add that Odin is furthermore a RAVEN god and a WOLF god - his enemies are ICE and FIRE giants, he rules over valhalla, which makes him a death god as well. From his THRONE he can SEE and hear all nine worlds. He drank from a spring of wisdom UNDER the world TREE. He hangs in the TREE as a SACRIFICE for humankind. Surnames include: He with the flaming eyes; experienced deluder; raven god.
To add to the HOBAW idea: Hades had a wife - Persephone, who was a SPRING goddess (i think). Half the year, she would be staying at her husbands side in the underworld, and in the other half of the year, she would be tending to her old duties on the surface - Black and White
Both Odin and Hades have tools that make them invisible. They can work from the "shadows"
I think that both FLM and BR are agents for equilibrium - for justice that can seem cruel at times
Where's the mutha-effing lurve button?!
The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.
voice, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that House Dayne was actually founded as a cadet branch of the Starks just for the sake of keeping Dawn.
Yup. I think that was the origin of House Dayne's existence one way or another, keepers of Dawn. Lightbringers.
I'm hoping Dayne and Stark are tied together genetically, and that Jon represents a rejoining of the houses-divided. But tis hard to say.
If I'm right about How Ice Became Dawn, then it all makes sense.... Ned's return of Dawn to Starfall... the odd reverence houses Stark and Dayne have for one another... the sadness in Arthur's voice at the tower of joy... the face of Arthur Dayne burning clearly in Ned's dreams fifteen years later (and his dispassionate, once-every-few-years memories of Rhaegar)...
And for Jon... being the "better sword"... the opening and closing of Jon's sword hand... the discomfort he feels in wielding not-his-father's sword... the fact that he cannot relate to Valyrian Steel... the blue eyes of death rose petals... the coming Long Night and need for Dawn... and, last and most importantly, that Weirwood-colored direwolf his mother sent to him.
It all speaks to a very Westerosi story. And Houses Stark and Dayne are as Westeros as it gets.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Yup. I think that was the origin of House Dayne's existence one way or another, keepers of Dawn. Lightbringers.
I'm hoping Dayne and Stark are tied together genetically, and that Jon represents a rejoining of the houses-divided. But tis hard to say.
If I'm right about How Ice Became Dawn, then it all makes sense.... Ned's return of Dawn to Starfall... the odd reverence houses Stark and Dayne have for one another... the sadness in Arthur's voice at the tower of joy... the face of Arthur Dayne burning clearly in Ned's dreams fifteen years later (and his dispassionate, once-every-few-years memories of Rhaegar)...
And for Jon... being the "better sword"... the opening and closing of Jon's sword hand... the discomfort he feels in wielding not-his-father's sword... the fact that he cannot relate to Valyrian Steel... the blue eyes of death rose petals... the coming Long Night and need for Dawn... and, last and most importantly, that Weirwood-colored direwolf his mother sent to him.
It all speaks to a very Westerosi story. And Houses Stark and Dayne are as Westeros as it gets.
Fuckin' preach! I'll also throw in House Yronwood as the secret keepers/witnesses. They "guard the way".
The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.
Yup. I think that was the origin of House Dayne's existence one way or another, keepers of Dawn. Lightbringers.
I'm hoping Dayne and Stark are tied together genetically, and that Jon represents a rejoining of the houses-divided. But tis hard to say.
If I'm right about How Ice Became Dawn, then it all makes sense.... Ned's return of Dawn to Starfall... the odd reverence houses Stark and Dayne have for one another... the sadness in Arthur's voice at the tower of joy... the face of Arthur Dayne burning clearly in Ned's dreams fifteen years later (and his dispassionate, once-every-few-years memories of Rhaegar)...
And for Jon... being the "better sword"... the opening and closing of Jon's sword hand... the discomfort he feels in wielding not-his-father's sword... the fact that he cannot relate to Valyrian Steel... the blue eyes of death rose petals... the coming Long Night and need for Dawn... and, last and most importantly, that Weirwood-colored direwolf his mother sent to him.
It all speaks to a very Westerosi story. And Houses Stark and Dayne are as Westeros as it gets.
Fuckin' preach! I'll also throw in House Yronwood as the secret keepers/witnesses. They "guard the way".
Let's not forget the Bloody Gate, the Gates of the Moon, and Moat Cailin. The "Hinges of Westeros," if you will...
"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery." "True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes." Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows." "A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."
Never has GRRM given us a non-human cause for such calamities. He wants to make us hate war, and hate the effects of war. He is a hippy, and the cotf are nothing if not hippies.
This might be the one thing with which I disagree. Yes, they’re tree huggers. But when those trees were threatened it seems like they went too far to the extreme and ended up causing more damage. I would say it depends on what you think their actual role was in certain “natural” disasters. Textually, the CotF were responsible for the breaking of the Arm of Dorne and the flooding of the Neck, and possibly the Iron Islands. These caused obvious loss of life, a reshaping of the terrain and pain to the planet. (In the Avatar, we’re all connected sort of way). I personally don’t believe that they did a rain dance and a hammer wielding hand from the sky came down. I also don’t think it was a meteor and that they just took the blame for it. I think in a desperate hour they used blood magic due to its powerful abilities and were incapable of controlling it. Similarly to the way I think they created the Others.
Why is this important now? Because I think it took them several times to learn their lesson and they’re working with another that doesn’t share the knowledge of the danger in wielding something too powerful, like dragons. BR is a means-to-an-end kind of guy. IMO he’s beckoning Dany bc he wants her dragons to fight the Others. Sounds good on the surface. Hell, even Jon says, “I’d like a dragon or 3”. Fire melts ice, easy peasy lemon squeezy. But there is a greater threat in the long run that they see, he doesn’t. Think of the Field of Fire. The destruction that was laid to the land. The Others might hate anything with warmth in its body but fire consumes all. Only the cockroaches would survive. What’s the point of saving the population if they’ll only die from starvation? It would take the land years to be able to produce again. What about their houses and exposure to the winter elements? Even if/when the Others are defeated and the planetary cycles normalize winter is still coming.
The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.
Let's not forget the Bloody Gate, the Gates of the Moon, and Moat Cailin. The "Hinges of Westeros," if you will...
I'd add Moat Cailin, the Isle of Faces, Storm's End, the Hightower of Oldtown, and maybe the Hellholt to that list.
When considering these places, as well as other magic-associated fortifications like Winterfell, Storm's End, Casterly Rock, Harrenhal, Sunspear (maybe). etc: It's interesting that the most impregnable ones like Casterly Rock, Winterfell, Storm's End, the Eyrie, are seemingly built in harmony with the land around them, which stands in direct contrast with a cursed place like Harrenhal.
"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery." "True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes." Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows." "A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."
Yup. I think that was the origin of House Dayne's existence one way or another, keepers of Dawn. Lightbringers.
I'm hoping Dayne and Stark are tied together genetically, and that Jon represents a rejoining of the houses-divided. But tis hard to say.
If I'm right about How Ice Became Dawn, then it all makes sense.... Ned's return of Dawn to Starfall... the odd reverence houses Stark and Dayne have for one another... the sadness in Arthur's voice at the tower of joy... the face of Arthur Dayne burning clearly in Ned's dreams fifteen years later (and his dispassionate, once-every-few-years memories of Rhaegar)...
And for Jon... being the "better sword"... the opening and closing of Jon's sword hand... the discomfort he feels in wielding not-his-father's sword... the fact that he cannot relate to Valyrian Steel... the blue eyes of death rose petals... the coming Long Night and need for Dawn... and, last and most importantly, that Weirwood-colored direwolf his mother sent to him.
It all speaks to a very Westerosi story. And Houses Stark and Dayne are as Westeros as it gets.
Fuckin' preach! I'll also throw in House Yronwood as the secret keepers/witnesses. They "guard the way".
Just the boneway methinks. There isn't much else to show that the Yronwoods have played a big role outside of Dorne.
Darkstar will be the next Vulture King.
Craster has 19 daughters and there are 19 castles on the Wall, coincidence I think not!
Idk if you saw all the hype on W a few years ago when GoT was doing the 12 Days of Christmas and we thought it was ago countdown to WoW release, but I posted a "mix tape" list inspired by such classics as "Santa Claus is coming on Moms" and "I'm dreaming of a white woman".
The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.
If we apply the "half the year" to ASOIAF, we should have a woman capable of living a very long time in the light of day, and who is endure in the years of Winter.
Or someone who messed with the balance of nature and length of seasons to extend her "free time".
The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.