The Night's King and his tower.

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The Night's King and his tower. Jul 3, 2016 20:34:04 GMT voice, SlyWren, and 2 more like this

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Post by maestercambodia on Jul 3, 2016 20:34:04 GMT

Jun 15, 2016 16:44:32 GMT armstark said:

I am glad you guys like it, although it seems nobody wants to be the first to chime in

So here is some more food for thought:

Does this set up Bran as the Night's King and Jaime as Azor Ahai to come full circle? Will we wonder in the end if Jaime was right to prevent Bran from ascending to the tower (throne)?

Have to say, this is so twisted and off-the-wall, it's beautiful! :lion

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Jul 8, 2016 1:30:50 GMT DarkSister1001 said:

Disclaimer - given that D&D said "hold the door" came from GRRM, I'm treating it as mostly cannon, I still need to read it in the book.

Yes--it sounds like Martin will do it in another fashion. But I'm assuming that the basic idea will . . ..hold.

Terrible pun. Sorry.

Jul 8, 2016 1:30:50 GMT DarkSister1001 said:

Before Hodor held the door and we discovered the root of his "disability" I worried that Bran was starting down a path by skinchanging him. Now we know that it was necessary. They had be accustomed to it in order for it to happen. Sadly, Hodor is crucial to Brans story and survival. I just hope he stops trying once that scene plays out on paper.

For all of Bran's willfulness and even desire for dominance (he likes ti when he's in Summer and Summer dominates other animals), Bran does have empathy and sympathy and kindness.

Euron. . . does not.

So, yes--I could see what happened to Hodor as being a turning point in the books for Bran. In the show. . . . have they mentioned it since it happened????

Jul 8, 2016 1:30:50 GMT DarkSister1001 said:

In all seriousness when it comes to any theory I have, no matter how cracked the pot is, I don't expect 100% agreement. All I ask is that your mind is open to the possibility.

Amen and hallelujah!

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Jul 8, 2016 0:22:00 GMT voice said:

The reason I'm quoting you both though is that in the area of Bran and his corn for the crows, I think that corn itself is a "sweet, summer child."

Corn is sweet, yellow, and grows from the sun. [insert universal mesoamerican corn=sun beliefs here]

So Bran as a "sweet, summer child" is really just, well, corny. LOL Bran=Raven (Welsh language), and Summer is Summer. So Bran is just sweet summer crow-food.

A fair point--so, when Mormont's raven calls for corn, he's calling for . . . connection???

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Jul 8, 2016 1:58:03 GMT SlyWren said:

Jul 8, 2016 0:22:00 GMT voice said:

The reason I'm quoting you both though is that in the area of Bran and his corn for the crows, I think that corn itself is a "sweet, summer child."

Corn is sweet, yellow, and grows from the sun. [insert universal mesoamerican corn=sun beliefs here]

So Bran as a "sweet, summer child" is really just, well, corny. LOL Bran=Raven (Welsh language), and Summer is Summer. So Bran is just sweet summer crow-food.

A fair point--so, when Mormont's raven calls for corn, he's calling for . . . connection???

It's usually before or following him saying a word or phrase so....mayhaps.

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Jul 8, 2016 15:58:27 GMT SlyWren said:

A fair point--so, when Mormont's raven calls for corn, he's calling for . . . connection???

Jul 8, 2016 22:09:02 GMT DarkSister1001 said:

It's usually before or following him saying a word or phrase so....mayhaps.

Mayhaps is a good answer.

I take this rather literally. Or, rather figuratively, depending on your point of view.

But I think Bran=Raven, and therefore, a Bran-Raven screaming for Corn is simply a black bird howling for Summer... for the harvest that can only come from the Sun.

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Jul 12, 2016 19:18:22 GMT DarkSister1001 said:

It's usually before or following him saying a word or phrase so....mayhaps.

If the "corn code" ends up being right, I will love it!

Jul 12, 2016 20:13:46 GMT voice said:

I take this rather literally. Or, rather figuratively, depending on your point of view.

But I think Bran=Raven, and therefore, a Bran-Raven screaming for Corn is simply a black bird howling for Summer... for the harvest that can only come from the Sun.

That could also explain why he's calling Jon king--the King who could bring back the balance of the seasons, the balance of Night and Day.

And why Bran fed the crows??? He'll likely be helping to bring summer, too. Especially since the the crow told him Winter is Coming.

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