"umm... I think these boys are gay." It made the story more interesting, tbh. Then, when it turned out they weren't, it seemed like they were peculiarly close for platonic friends.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
"umm... I think these boys are gay." It made the story more interesting, tbh. Then, when it turned out they weren't, it seemed like they were peculiarly close for platonic friends.
i haven't read it yet, but i find that prepubescent males are more likely to have very close relationships with their male peers that would lend you to believe they might swing that way, but puberty is the big game changer (this is my experience with my youngest son who just turned 16, he's still not overly interested in girls, but that's more because he's lazy and girls are, "too much work"... he told his mom that he wasn't gay, and we reiterated that we don't care either way).
I find that the line of argument used in the article to be just odd. we've come a long way in the past 20 years regarding sexual orientation, and at the time sorceror's stone was published being pro lgbt would have been a death sentence for the author (particularly with a MG or YA novel). the fact that the author stated she always envisioned the best good guy wizard in the world as gay should be a positive for that community (and honestly, in deathly hallows when his albus' brother talks about the relationship between Albus and that other wizard seeking the Hallows, blanked on his name but they ended up dueling for the elder wand i believe, i picked up that Albus was gay), and not just another way to persecute them. this author is actively helping your cause and you're still going to complain because the whole series wasn't just for your group? that is just a recipe for killing a writer's creative spirit, and the fact is that the wizarding world does not have to reflect "reality" in any way shape or form. it fucking fantasy for the love of pete...
i haven't read it yet, but i find that prepubescent males are more likely to have very close relationships with their male peers that would lend you to believe they might swing that way, but puberty is the big game changer
Totally agree. But didn't it seem like a bit more than that? I mean, they can't stand to be physically away from each other.
The close-platonic relationship still works, but the themes were pretty strong. And as the article pointed out, HP kinda already did the whole close-platonic thing with Ron and Harry.
(this is my experience with my youngest son who just turned 16, he's still not overly interested in girls, but that's more because he's lazy and girls are, "too much work"... he told his mom that he wasn't gay, and we reiterated that we don't care either way).
Yup. My friends and I talk a lot about this. I think it's due to a culture shift. While our generation was eager to, uhh, "date" LOL millennials are not.
Have you read Manna from Heaven? It makes you wonder if it isn't for the best.
I find that the line of argument used in the article to be just odd. we've come a long way in the past 20 years regarding sexual orientation, and at the time sorceror's stone was published being pro lgbt would have been a death sentence for the author (particularly with a MG or YA novel). the fact that the author stated she always envisioned the best good guy wizard in the world as gay should be a positive for that community (and honestly, in deathly hallows when his albus' brother talks about the relationship between Albus and that other wizard seeking the Hallows, blanked on his name but they ended up dueling for the elder wand i believe, i picked up that Albus was gay), and not just another way to persecute them. this author is actively helping your cause and you're still going to complain because the whole series wasn't just for your group? that is just a recipe for killing a writer's creative spirit, and the fact is that the wizarding world does not have to reflect "reality" in any way shape or form. it fucking fantasy for the love of pete...
Yup. That was the part I found most interesting. JKR's fans have such a strong sense of ownership over what used to be her universe that they are offended that she isn't amending it to fit their real lives. It's bizarre. And really, it speaks to the millennial culture shift I mentioned above. They grew up with Harry Potter, and are now more concerned about his lack of gay children than they are about their own sex lives.
It wasn't something that I thought was a big deal. But after reading the article I realized that there might have been some purposeful dancing around on the issue. Rather than appreciate it, her fandom revolted. I didn't even know that stuff was happening, but I'm not exactly a savvy redditor.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Totally agree. But didn't it seem like a bit more than that? I mean, they can't stand to be physically away from each other.
The close-platonic relationship still works, but the themes were pretty strong. And as the article pointed out, HP kinda already did the whole close-platonic thing with Ron and Harry.
I haven't read it, so can't say what it seemed like to me (its on my to do list, but with job promotion and us buying a house i've not had any free time recently). from what i've read regarding it, this seems to be the majority opinion.
Yup. My friends and I talk a lot about this. I think it's due to a culture shift. While our generation was eager to, uhh, "date" LOL millennials are not.
Have you read Manna from Heaven? It makes you wonder if it isn't for the best.
i've not read 'Manna from Heaven', and there is a strong correlation with the rise of the internet combined with younger generations not knowing anything different, and the lack of desire for them to do the things that we did (go hang out with friends, date, and so on). Both of my sons would rather sit home and play games with us or online than go out with their friends. we've wondered where we went wrong as parents, since we both couldn't wait to leave the house and they have to be bribed to leave.
I haven't read it, so can't say what it seemed like to me (its on my to do list, but with job promotion and us buying a house i've not had any free time recently). from what i've read regarding it, this seems to be the majority opinion.
I wouldn't go out of my way to read it. I read it the other day because I was stuck somewhere and it popped up on my phone. It's a really long article, and mostly seems like people taking a children's fantasy series waaaayyyy too seriously. LOL
i've not read 'Manna from Heaven', and there is a strong correlation with the rise of the internet combined with younger generations not knowing anything different, and the lack of desire for them to do the things that we did (go hang out with friends, date, and so on). Both of my sons would rather sit home and play games with us or online than go out with their friends. we've wondered where we went wrong as parents, since we both couldn't wait to leave the house and they have to be bribed to leave.
Manna is pretty good. It's a part of GRRM's Tuf Voyaging stories. Very ASOIAF-y.
And no Tz, you guys didn't go wrong [...says some guy on the internet... LOL!]. Many people are facing that exact same culture clash with their children. It's easy to beat yourself up as a parent, but if you take a step back and look at it, your kids are comfortable at home with their family and parents. Sadly, not all kids are.
So all that means is your sons likely have a very healthy home life. Rather than fear you, they want to hang out and play video games with you. That means you're doing something right.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
