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Cersei IV Oct 6, 2016 3:44:19 GMT voice, Lady Dyanna, and 2 more like this

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Post by Dornish Neck Tie on Oct 6, 2016 3:44:19 GMT

Now here's an interesting sentiment from Cersei. What is GRRM trying to tell us about how the story of the Night's King and Queen relates to present events?

    Kettleblack was afraid, she could smell it on him, but he was too proud to own up to that fear. Men are all alike. "I've killed more boys than I can count," he insisted. "Once this boy is dead, I'd get my pardon from the king?"
    "That, and a lordship." Unless Snow's brothers hang you first. "A queen must have a consort. One who knows no fear."
    "Lord Kettleblack?" A slow smile spread across his face, and his scars flamed red. "Aye, I like the sound o' that. A lordly lord . . ."
    ". . . and fit to bed a queen."
    He frowned. "The Wall is cold."
    "And I am warm." Cersei put her arms about his neck. "Bed a girl and kill a boy and I am yours. Do you have the courage?"
    Osney thought a moment before he nodded. "I am your man."
- Cersei IV, AFfC

Cersei Lannister: still the baddest bitch in Westeros. :cool

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"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery."
"True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes."
Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows."
"A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."

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Cersei IV Oct 7, 2016 21:22:25 GMT voice and danl like this

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Oct 7, 2016 19:27:09 GMT Dornish Neck Tie said:

A queen must have a consort. One who knows no fear."

that line is well known, right?

One certainly needs to be fearless (ie senseless) to bed Cersei!

Oct 7, 2016 19:27:09 GMT Dornish Neck Tie said:

"Bed a girl and kill a boy and I am yours. Do you have the courage?"

this one not so. Who could have been the girl and the boy in ancient history?

"Arya did not dare take a bath, even though she smelled as bad as Yoren by now, all sour and stinky. Some of the creatures living in her clothes had come all the way from Flea Bottom with her; it didn’t seem right to drown them."

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Cersei IV Oct 8, 2016 1:51:50 GMT voice, Lady Dyanna, and 2 more like this

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Oct 7, 2016 21:08:00 GMT arrysfleas said:

this one not so. Who could have been the girl and the boy in ancient history?

An(other) bride, and a sworn brother of whoever the Night's King was.

This passage draws such a close parallel between Cersei and the story of the Night's King/Queen that is has me thinking we should be questioning the literal truth in every single line of the story. Cersei's skin is warm, but she plays the role of "ice queen" better than anyone we've seen so far.

"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery."
"True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes."
Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows."
"A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."

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Cersei IV Oct 24, 2016 22:11:08 GMT via Tapatalk Dornish Neck Tie likes this

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Post by voice on Oct 24, 2016 22:11:08 GMT

Oct 8, 2016 1:51:50 GMT Dornish Neck Tie said:

Oct 7, 2016 21:08:00 GMT arrysfleas said:

this one not so. Who could have been the girl and the boy in ancient history?

An(other) bride, and a sworn brother of whoever the Night's King was.

This passage draws such a close parallel between Cersei and the story of the Night's King/Queen that is has me thinking we should be questioning the literal truth in every single line of the story. Cersei's skin is warm, but she plays the role of "ice queen" better than anyone we've seen so far.

I strongly agree.

I'd propose that the other woman was the 13th leader's rock wife, and mother of House Stark. NQ would've been his salt wife, as he chased and caught her...thereby paying something that parallels the salt price. The child(ren) to be sacrificed(promised?) might've been his own Stark child(ren). Wargs.

"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."

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Cersei IV Oct 24, 2016 23:05:46 GMT voice likes this

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Oct 24, 2016 22:11:08 GMT voice said:

Oct 8, 2016 1:51:50 GMT Dornish Neck Tie said:

An(other) bride, and a sworn brother of whoever the Night's King was.

This passage draws such a close parallel between Cersei and the story of the Night's King/Queen that is has me thinking we should be questioning the literal truth in every single line of the story. Cersei's skin is warm, but she plays the role of "ice queen" better than anyone we've seen so far.

I strongly agree.

I'd propose that the other woman was the 13th leader's rock wife, and mother of House Stark. NQ would've been his salt wife, as he chased and caught her...thereby paying something that parallels the salt price. The child(ren) to be sacrificed(promised?) might've been his own Stark child(ren). Wargs.

Definitely a plausible way of putting the pieces together. The part of the Cersei angle which, to me, sticks out the most is the suggestion that the Night's King fiasco was not a simple matter of proactive magic use, but rather a result of some shady political gaming which happened to take place during a time of magical upheaval.

"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery."
"True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes."
Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows."
"A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."

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