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Aug 3, 2015 20:35:51 GMT voice said:

Aug 3, 2015 19:45:10 GMT Mojo said:

It all comes round full circle to Littlefinger, actually...

In part, but I think it comes back to the rebellion, and the antler-impaled direwolf as a sort of omen for both Ned and Robert. Idk...bunch of half-formed thoughts...

But at this point, Jon Arryn and Stannis had already discovered Joffrey's little secret, and presumably Renly was already plotting to bring Margaery to court to seduce Robert. I'm sure it was an omen, but the gears had already begun turning.

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Aug 3, 2015 20:44:06 GMT Mojo said:

Aug 3, 2015 20:35:51 GMT voice said:

In part, but I think it comes back to the rebellion, and the antler-impaled direwolf as a sort of omen for both Ned and Robert. Idk...bunch of half-formed thoughts...

But at this point, Jon Arryn and Stannis had already discovered Joffrey's little secret, and presumably Renly was already plotting to bring Margaery to court to seduce Robert. I'm sure it was an omen, but the gears had already begun turning.

I agree. And if Lysa/LF hadn't killed JA, Cersei or Jaime soon would have.

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Dec 8, 2015 4:53:53 GMT Wraith said:

So Littlefinger is out Bloodravening Bloodraven?

Or attempting to out-Tywin Tywin?

Looking at the quote Mojo started with:

Jul 30, 2015 2:47:33 GMT Mojo said:

"Now look at the other side of the coin. Joffrey is but twelve, and Robert gave you the regency, my lord. You are the Hand of the King and Protector of the Realm. The power is yours, Lord Stark. All you need do is reach out and take it. Make your peace with the Lannisters. Release the Imp. Wed Joffrey to your Sansa. Wed your younger girl to Prince Tommen, and your heir to Myrcella. It will be four years before Joffrey comes of age. By then he will look to you as a second father, and if not, well … four years is a good long while, my lord. Long enough to dispose of Lord Stannis. Then, should Joffrey prove troublesome, we can reveal his little secret and put Lord Renly on the throne."

The bolded possibly gives the game away. A tie into what the World Book says re: Tywin's attempts to promote Rhaegar. And thus a tie-in to voice's Catspaw thread.

But, if so, Baelish was trying to do this once-removed: influence the man who could be the father figure to the king and heir. So, perhaps Direwolf Blitzer is closer--is Baelish trying to be Varys?

Jul 30, 2015 0:59:12 GMT Mojo said:

This whole plan seemed to hatch way before that. Sansa is still betrothed to Joffrey, and Robb is still King in the North. What could LF's m.o. have been all the way back then? Why help Sansa escape? Was it coincidence this happened after he agreed to go to the Vale when Tyrion promised him Harrenhal? A bargaining chip perhaps for Robb, or a way to get into Cat's good graces?

I'm prejudiced, but I think this goes back to Sansa's potentially echoing Lyanna.

And the possibility that Lyanna was in King's Landing and gotten out by a knight/kingsguard. If so, they would have needed help.

One way or another, helping Lyanna was A. noble (hence the knight) and B. political capital to broker peace with the North and the Stormlands and Vale once the war smashed itself out. If Rhaegar got Lyanna away form Aerys, that could go a long way to convincing the North that Aerys was the bad guy and that he, Rhaegar, has the best interests of all his people at heart.

Sansa seems similar: whoever survives the war, she's a potential key to the North and Riverlands for whomever is left to pick up the pieces. And if she see that someone as her protecter, all the better.

So, would make sense that Baelish would start on this BEFORE the war finishes--he wants to bank his capital now. Invest in lemons.

Either that, or I would make a terrible politician.

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