Post by kinglittlefinger on Feb 12, 2017 17:46:30 GMT
I'm in the middle of the Mysteries/Wars to Come series and it is phenomenal. I think they are definitely on to some regarding the Order of the Green Hand (Jesus, who even thinks to look further into that, isn't it just one of Wyman's many titles??). I haven't gotten to their theory on Val's identity yet so I'm really looking forward to that, but a lot of what they say about Melisandre and Mance and Stannis feels spot on. And GRRM putting a Dalla in Dragonstone in Cressen's prologue made me laugh out loud. These guys are good, but I feel like some deductions are flat out the opposite of what is likely true or outright said to be true, but I'm going to finish the series before I comment further and see if they bring me around.
I'm in the middle of the Mysteries/Wars to Come series and it is phenomenal. I think they are definitely on to some regarding the Order of the Green Hand (Jesus, who even thinks to look further into that, isn't it just one of Wyman's many titles??). I haven't gotten to their theory on Val's identity yet so I'm really looking forward to that, but a lot of what they say about Melisandre and Mance and Stannis feels spot on. And GRRM putting a Dalla in Dragonstone in Cressen's prologue made me laugh out loud. These guys are good, but I feel like some deductions are flat out the opposite of what is likely true or outright said to be true, but I'm going to finish the series before I comment further and see if they bring me around.
I agree the Order of the Greenhand is one of the things that I am most curious to hear more about. Probably some connection to the Green Men on the Isle of Faces.
Not a fan of their Val theory, makes little to no sense to me sorry.
I know we don't get a Stannis POV but him being in on it makes no sense. He had no idea about the North until Davos brought it to his attention. Stannis was too busy putting the cart before the horse.
Dalla on Dragonstone is interesting but hardly conclusive.
I can make another thread for the wars to come videos if you like.
Darkstar will be the next Vulture King.
Craster has 19 daughters and there are 19 castles on the Wall, coincidence I think not!
Post by kinglittlefinger on Feb 13, 2017 18:22:08 GMT
Yeah I like the analysis and the ideas are certainly ambitious, but it seems like their entire idea stems from a few assumptions that are pretty shaky, so the further you get from that initial jump the bigger and more unbelievable the leaps become.
I do think the idea that Rhaegar and Lyanna hid in the crypts of Winterfell during the war and that Ned found her at home when he returned is very interesting. I've cooled quite a bit on RLJ, but it would be a parallel to the Bael story and we've seen people survive by hiding in the crypts in the main series. It would also give meaning to Jon's dream and what he's supposed to find at the bottom of the crypts, I've seen theories that a dragon egg or Rhaegar's harp are in Lyanna's crypt and that will be the proof of Jon's heritage. I don't know, it was a new idea that certainly made me think.
I too think that Allyria being Val and also Jon's twin is kind of ridiculous. And the Gerold Hightower being Tormund and having a Maege and Leyton connection I guess is possible but I don't see much textual evidence for it, and I think most readers would feel like that comes out of nowhere if it were revealed.