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And notice that he's dressed almost exactly as Ned used to

Jon

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The garb is also quite similar to Robb's attire, though Robb never wore blues like Ned and Jon are.

And more importantly, those aren't blacks.

Jon is fighting as a Stark.

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Sept 25, 2015 21:29:40 GMT markg171 said:

And more importantly, those aren't blacks.

Jon is fighting as a Stark.

I'm less certain. The man to his right has golden hair and is red of coat. I'm thinking he's made common cause with the Lions.

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Sept 25, 2015 21:29:40 GMT markg171 said:

And more importantly, those aren't blacks.

Jon is fighting as a Stark.

I'm less certain. The man to his right has golden hair and is red of coat. I'm thinking he's made common cause with the Lions.

Yes--the lesser house of Lannister--Lannister of Northface. Or perhaps the Ed of Bauer.

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This is truly one of those

moments, for me at least. They kept saying that "Jon Snow" is dead. Did they ever, even once, say "Jon" is dead without specifically adding the "Snow?"

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Sept 26, 2015 3:42:26 GMT voice said:

Sept 25, 2015 21:29:40 GMT markg171 said:

And more importantly, those aren't blacks.

Jon is fighting as a Stark.

I'm less certain. The man to his right has golden hair and is red of coat. I'm thinking he's made common cause with the Lions.

I'm pretty sure that that's just a guy from the crew, not someone from the cast. If you read the previous spoiler, the battle is being fought between Jon, the Umbers, the Boltons, and the wildlings. Jon was never supposed to fight beyond a northern fight unless this is a completely different fight which I doubt.

So I think the Umbers are fighting for Jon and against the Boltons, because Jon has accepted his role as the Stark of Winterfell. Hence why he's dressed as Ned, he's accepted his role as the Lord of the North

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Question. Is the guy in the blue hoodie Roose Bolton or just another crew member? I honestly can't decide.

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Sept 26, 2015 4:14:24 GMT Lady Dyanna said:

Question. Is the guy in the blue hoodie Roose Bolton or just another crew member? I honestly can't decide.

No idea, might be a random. Kit was spotted hanging out with the guy who plays Ramsay though so I'd say that if any Bolton's supposed to be on set, it's Ramsay

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Sept 26, 2015 4:11:00 GMT markg171 said:

Sept 26, 2015 3:42:26 GMT voice said:

I'm less certain. The man to his right has golden hair and is red of coat. I'm thinking he's made common cause with the Lions.

I'm pretty sure that that's just a guy from the crew, not someone from the cast. If you read the previous spoiler, the battle is being fought between Jon, the Umbers, the Boltons, and the wildlings. Jon was never supposed to fight beyond a northern fight unless this is a completely different fight which I doubt.

So I think the Umbers are fighting for Jon and against the Boltons, because Jon has accepted his role as the Stark of Winterfell. Hence why he's dressed as Ned, he's accepted his role as the Lord of the North

Was joking. LOL

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Sept 26, 2015 4:14:24 GMT Lady Dyanna said:

Question. Is the guy in the blue hoodie Roose Bolton or just another crew member? I honestly can't decide.

Nah--I think that's actually one of the directors. The actor who plays Roose is usually clean shaven, right?

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[abbr data-timestamp="1443240660000" class="time" title="Fri Sep 25 2015 22:11:00 GMT-0600 (MDT)"]Sep 25, 2015 at 10:11pm[/abbr] markg171 said:

Hence why he's dressed as Ned, he's accepted his role as the Lord of the North

I suspect the same, so it could be way more than a show spoiler.

If that costuming is correct, it's telling us what the books have been saying all along--Jon's of the North.

I shall now faint with shock that the books have actually not mislead me on a very basic character point.

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I'm very reluctant to use the upcoming seasons to draw any conclusions about what will happen in the books. The short cuts they're taking, combined with massive fan fiction of late, has made the show a totally different beast.

To illustrate: imagine we only got aDwD *now*, after season 5.

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Sept 29, 2015 7:11:31 GMT regular jon umber said:

I'm very reluctant to use the upcoming seasons to draw any conclusions about what will happen in the books. The short cuts they're taking, combined with massive fan fiction of late, has made the show a totally different beast.

To illustrate: imagine we only got aDwD *now*, after season 5.

Yeah, I kind of agree. But I still foresee many a-spoiler. The two beasts aren't twins, but they are sisters, and look enough alike to cause me great concern.

The reveal of the NK, for example, still pisses me off. And while I know some people think D&D just made him up, I certainly was already of the mind the books were leading up to him being both "alive" and a Stark named Brandon. Now, with their clumsy and implausible version (babies who don't freeze, hanging out at Hardhome before dark/winter), it just feels anticlimactic and cheesy.

The fact that they've nixed Young Griff and Jon Con, and kept greyscale in the plot, also seems slightly spoilerish. I'm thinking the nix proves f/Aegon is unimportant to the resolution of the series (which I already suspected), and that greyscale is important for some aspect of the end game (which I have joked about, but didn't really suspect).

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