Ideas of Ice and Fire

Part 3:

Finally came out with Part 4. I'm on the fence with his conclusion.

 Er, I mean a real life Donald Glover character. Cos Donald Glover is a real life Donald Glover...

Well, the conclusion makes sense to me, but of course it would. LOL

And our favorite non-member heretical brother since last episode has been getting a lot of messages from haters dumping on him for his R+L =/= (<--does not equal) J videos in light of where the show seems to be ready to steam roll next episode.

Sharing this to inspire giving love to the guy, a heretical brother from another website mother.

Firstly. Totally agree. Wish I was at home to respond to all of the in depth responses you've added today. I will, asap, but your other comments are too heavy a load for my phone to bear.

This one, it can handle. The steamroller... I'm really torn on this issue. RLJ is an easy guess when one addresses the question of Jon's parentage... in the books.

In the show, there is very little to make us question Jon's parentage.

But there's not nothing. They added the going-away convo between Sean and Kit, and Jon asked it directly.

They've certainly ramped up the Lyanna mentions, the Rhaegar mentions, and the mentions of Rhaegar being with Lyanna. Other connections to Lyanna have been nonexistent since season one, and that was only Robert. Howland Reed will likely make an appearance in the next episode, and we've already met his kids.

Unless Alfred Hunrith's name is a complete troll, they've dropped Arthur Dayne and the toj-Starfall dynamic. Has the show ever mentioned Ashara? If so, she too seems to have been sorely neglected.

So, alas, I think viewers would be blindsided by a Stark+Dayne revelation. D&D do enjoy shock and awe though. But I agree with Lady Dyanna that this angle lends more support for Robert as Jon's father.

I suppose what I'm getting at is that Ned+SW and Rhaegar+Lyanna seem to be the only scenarios that would not feel completely out of left field... for readers.

Bran in the weirnet is going to be the source of the revelation, I think.

What is interesting to me, if we backtrack to the question itself is this...

Is this a burning question for nonreaders?

I really don't think it is. There are even MANY casual readers for whom this question never arises. Hard to imagine for us, right?

But we are not the mean of this curve. We are about as un-average and non-casual as it gets. I have a feeling I'm not alone in saying I can quote very very lengthy passages from these books verbatim. That's not normal. Lol

Unsullied Viewers are even more casual than casual readers, and THEY are hbo's bread and butter. Not us.

So with that in mind, I'm not sure they can go wrong. I think casual viewers will be comfortable and positively surprised by any parentage scenario. Jon could be no one, or anyone. He'll still just be Jon.