wondering about the ritualistic layout of the bodies, and then the disappearance of the bodies in the snow is the layout of the bodies complete, as in the diamond with a slash through it is the formation required for whatever the white walkers were doing, or has it been disturbed? (because some limbs were off the line and helter skelter) wonder what it means and if that will be explained much later in the series, so will we be coming back to this scene in some way
if they want wights, why the dismemberment?
also, chick who was nailed to a tree was reanimated a little while later. Why the gap, does it take some time to make wights? was the ritual arrangement of bodies a part of the magic that makes wights?
I remember Sam saying something about glittering armour in one of the later episodes, so wondering if these are the white walkers (book others) or some kind of creatures made by the white walkers (perhaps book cold servants)
Post by whitewolfstark on Mar 20, 2016 22:54:24 GMT
PJ has speculated that the bodies laid out look like a Theta--which would be a nod to GRRM's sci-fi writings and universe where a Silver Theta and a Golden Theta denoted two different groups of people who eventually war with one another.
That is the most confusing thing: why dismember the bodies if they want wights?
I think the movement of the bodies is more to imply that night has since fallen--it does get noticeably darker (hard to tell, but it does) between when Will first sees the pile and when he comes back.
wondering about the ritualistic layout of the bodies, and then the disappearance of the bodies in the snow is the layout of the bodies complete, as in the diamond with a slash through it is the formation required for whatever the white walkers were doing, or has it been disturbed? (because some limbs were off the line and helter skelter) wonder what it means and if that will be explained much later in the series, so will we be coming back to this scene in some way
PJ has speculated that the bodies laid out look like a Theta--which would be a nod to GRRM's sci-fi writings and universe where a Silver Theta and a Golden Theta denoted two different groups of people who eventually war with one another.
That works. And one way or another it's a ritualistic circle.
But it does seem to set up for the idea that the Walkers themselves are engaging in ritual. As though they participate in the magics. We see a spiral on the Fist later on. So. . . right from the start, seems like the show's setting us up to know this is magical and ritual oriented.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
So. . . will be interesting to look at that again in the HBO production. . .
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Its sad that Show!Waymar goes out like such a bitch. Would have been nice to see the challenge and duel. Funny how most people forget that the Other was challenged before he attacked in the books. Then the rest of the Others sat around and waited while they dueled like proper gentlemen.
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Its sad that Show!Waymar goes out like such a bitch. Would have been nice to see the challenge and duel. Funny how most people forget that the Other was challenged before he attacked in the books. Then the rest of the Others sat around and waited while they dueled like proper gentlemen.
That's right--it's like the Gentlemenly Others were like: "Hurry it up will you, I've got to get back to the missus and drink my frozen cup of tea before it melts. We're getting a new baby today from Craster--I hear this one isn't cross-eyed. Oh dear, you're dead... sorry about that old chap and... now don't go and choke your friend to death--that's just. I just hate it when they come back to life all murderous like that. Wights, you can't take them anywhere..."
The whole prologue section is set up completely different from the books. I'm not sure that I understand the purpose behind it. The only thing that I can think of is that they are trying to make clear that something magical and ritualistic is occurring. I think the choice not to show the dual was more due to the budgetary constraints that I'm sure existed for the first episode of a new series. Actually, I thought that they did well in showing so very little. I think it actually made the scenes more frightening.
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