See a Storyboard of the White Walkers' Origins

It still feels like a bullshit way to make ww's, and one that contradicts canonical history, but anyway... I noticed an interesting tidbit.

In the tenth panel we have


The storyboard artist doesn't know how to spell "Andal"?

And why the hell is this an Andal?

Again, I must call bullshit. While the Andals certainly didn't help the situation (miasma) when they came to Westeros and started killing/burning weirwoods, they had nothing to do with any event worthy of the title "White Walker' Origins."

While I can certainly appreciate folks like SlyWren , LmL , and BC's arguments that the history and timeline are suspect, one thing that I believe we can all agree upon is that the star-eyed brotherhood predate the Andal/Andle Invasion by a helluva long time.

Really cool inside glimpse of the process, but again, I must complain that the show's "Origin" story makes zero sense.

Great points. Still, from a writer's perspective, this shouldn't really be spun with Dothraki logic right?

Jorah might be an Andal to the Dothraki, and that isn't wrong considering the Mormonts are descended from Ironborn iirc and the First Men are not described as a seafaring people. But, it seems awfully Dothraki-centric. Rhaesh Andahli makes sense from their POV, but not from a Westerosi POV.

You're right of course, and I know my dork is showing. And for all intents and purposes, after 6000 years of relations, it's a moot point. It just looks wrong to me. I mean, if you're going to go there, at least make it have a purpose or context (and spell the name of the group right for crying out loud).

I was thinking that by having Leaf present, and by having the "original white walker" be named as an "Andle" that they have effectively moved the Long Night's occurrence to a far more recent era. Rather than be 10,000 years old, the Wall should be 5,000. And apparently, the Pact didn't exist... ?

It's like the show simplifies things just enough to no longer make sense.

A tangential but related question that arises is whether or not Howland Reed was said to have visited the Isle of Faces in the show. If show-Howland did, it seems he was in cahoots with the cotf and sought to bring back the white walkers by stabbing Arthur Dayne in the back. If not, it speaks to the complications that are emerging from the simplifications.

But yeah, with Leaf being the one to personally otherize the Andle, Night's King could feasibly have been created very recently. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Exactly! I meant to bring that up and just forgot. LOL

He's just some dude. Some Andle. (Yes, I enjoy derisively repeating the misnomer LOL)

Just as Sansa is married to Ramsay Bolton, this is a big red flag signaling that we have jumped the shark and landed in the realm of fan fiction.

Well, I think the term fan-fiction is a bit hyperbolic. The TV show cannot do the same thing as the books, and D&D are not as brilliant as GRRM. The specific factor I am addressing is one of simplification. They have to pare down story lines and characters. No fAegon or JonCon. No Arianne. No Victarion. No Coldhands, Stoneheart. No fArya. A bunch less fewer wildlings. Not much Lightbringer, no Dawn, no Dark Sister and not really any Bloodraven, only the three-eyed raven. Agree or disagree with their choices, they have to pare down. This requires changing plots and sending people in directions they did not go in the story. I don't think we've jumped the shark, it's just as the story goes further along, those minor or medium level changes become big changes which have an effect on many other things. 

In other words, all we can do as book readers is guess and read the tea leaves on all but the most major plot points. If the children made the Others in the show, it's almost certain they did so in the books, or were a part of doing so. As to specifically how, that's clearly into the realm of things which are probably different between show and books. That's why I am just looking at the broad stories - the children were involved, weirwoods were involved, and black stone of various kinds was involved. We both have reasons to believe weirwoods are a part of making Others, so it's tempting to see that as probable confirmation. My theory about black stone being use to make others, I am less sure of that than I am that weirs were involved, but it's still pretty fascinating to see all the dark stone. But I'm not declaring that as absolute confirmation by any means, just another possible clue. 

My process is kind of like this: I collect notes on any topic which fascinates me, like the creation of the Others or all the parallels between trees and Others. I file these notes and quotes away, and occasionally discuss them on the boards. But its' not until I get down to writing an essay about a topic that I really drill down and upload all the relevant info into my brain and try to put it together. And really, i don't choose to do an essay until I feel I have begun to latch on to the important threads of the knot. The idea of black stone in the ice moon or the heart of winter, which would be paralleled by black stone inside on Other, is an idea which has been in the waiting circle. I haven't gone full bore on it yet, but I have run a cross a lot of interesting examples of black moon meteor symbols becoming encased in ice. Hell, this could be fitting in with the "one moon" version of my theory, which would be your idea of one moon which transforms instead of one ice and one fire moon. The blackened remnant of the cracked moon freezes over and becomes our current moon, something like that. The two ideas are quite similar - a piece of fire moon shrapnel embedding in the ice moon, or the destroyed remnant of the moon freezing over. Either way, you have the burnt and blackened dragon moon symbol freezing over and becoming frozen fire, which is what the Others seem to be.