Okay--After the finale, seems like anything's possible.
And like D&D might just write based on the fan-forums--though they don't read whitewolfstark--and they should.
What are your predictions for next season? You, too, could see your ideas on the screen!
Go for broke!
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
1. We’ll never see Ghost again—just occasionally be told he’s in the godswood. Possibly learning to fetch.
2. Jorah’s greyscale will never come up again—it was all just a big waste of time and money.
3. The fact that they showed Bran’s influence on the past THREE TIMES in season 6 will be dropped off of a narrative cliff. Nothing to see here. No need for that. Hodor’s death and Ned’s hearing Bran means nothing. Move it along to more boat sex, folks.
4. Dayne’s Sun Sword was just a prop.
5. Arya and Sansa will have pointless, high-school drama with Jon about Dany.
Keeping up the theme of random fan-based ideas?
Sansa will marry the Hound
Arya will marry Gendry
Jaime will kill Cersei
Bran will warg a dragon.
Dany and Jon will have twins.
Last Edit: Aug 28, 2017 15:29:09 GMT by SlyWren: Format mess.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
But I was thinking more along the line of this: mutant dragon wolves.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Option 1. He will be somewhat horrified that his birth father ditched his family and oaths and responsibility for . . .. "Love." Leaving his wife and children to be butchered so he could play house with Lyanna.
Especially since Jon chose duty and honor over love.
Not sure what he'll make of his mother.
And he'll insist on telling the Northern Lords the truth--and probably turn things over to Sansa.
If they don't drop the Tarly deaths off a narrative cliff, I could see that being part of the issue, too. Jon's wanting to distance himself from Targ destructiveness.
And then talk about how much he's like Theon--bad dad. Good Ned.
Option 2. OR: He'l think, "hey, it's sad. But we all make mistakes! Just call me Aegon, folks!"
And skip on upstairs to canoodle with Auntie Dany.
Given how season 7 went--it's definitely going to be option #2.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
To your point SlyWren: I am wholly curious how Jon will feel about his parentage in the books.
In the show it seems they foreshadow an acceptance to be a Stark and a Targ. The way he said it to Theon (you don't have to choose: you're a Greyjoy. And a Stark) led me to believe they'll fix that pretty quick. No doubt they will break Dany and Jon apart for one or two eps, but then he'll deal with his Targ heritage of incestuous acceptance and he'll be ok with that.
“Don’t fight in the North, or the South. Fight every battle everywhere. Always, in your mind.”
Bran will tell Jon to go down into the crypts and find the Dawn Sword Melisandre will return so that Jon can plunge Dawn into her fiery heart and transform into AA Jon will commandeer Drogon and fight the Nights King
The hound will kill the mountain, but die in the process. Bran will not survive the end of the series. No Dragon lives to the end. Arya is the valonquar, and will kill Cersei after she betrays the North in the war for dawn. Jamie will die saving Jon and/or Dany from the NK, redeeming himself for failing to save Rhaegar's other children in RR. Brianne will finally, somewhat, appreciate Tormund's affections (i want the Brimund saga as the spinoff...) Gendry will be legitimized by Dany and/or Jon as reward for something (either reforging Ice, forging new dragonsteel or valor in combat) Sansa will tell Tyrion how he was the only person who was ever nice to her, and i think they will (re)marry to end the Stark Lannister conflict, and both will find love after a fashion (this is the sweet) Jon and Dany (along with Drogon) both die, after Dany gives birth to Eddard Targaryan, first of his name, whom Tyrion, Sansa, and Arya raise to be even better than his parents (the bitter, but with Arya training him in combat, and Tyrion and Sansa developing his political mind, he's set to be the kind of King you only read about in stories...)
I have a weird feeling about this. With so so many eyes on the material, so much theory crafting and eventually so many scenes to dish out fan service, nothing surprises me anymore. I just really don't care. I'm no longer hyped.
I accuse :
Ed Sheeran cameo LF uninspiring plot Supersonic ravens Boatcest Aeragorn Targaryen of Narnia The death of character intrigue A stereotypical portrayal of a cold-blooded assassin. etc.
This is what I expect for season 8:
More stupids cameos Illogical plot twists. Next-generation Ravens with vertical take-off and stealth capabilities CleganeBowl Jon rides Rhaegal Awesome CGI The Hound will says the words "Cunt" or "Fuck off", alternatively, in any order.
Post by silentmajority on Sept 4, 2017 11:19:04 GMT
I hope that Arya steals Little Fingers face just because I really like Aiden Gillan as an actor. I thought he really nailed his death scene even though I still think that LF would have talked his way out of an execution.
Cleganbowl will happen, and the Hound will kill the Mountain. The Hound needs to live since he's still one of my favorite characters, and he needs to serve more of a purpose than just to fight the Mountain.
Not sure how they will have Jon and Dany react when they find out that they are related especially if she's pregnant. Maybe it won't even be a big deal.
I'm also curious how Bran and the other Starks are going to react when Jaime arrives. He did shove Bran out the window though in Jaimes defense he was peeping on them.
The other question I want answered is why someone sent an assassin to kill Bran. We know it was LF knife, but at the time there was no reason to kill him, unless someone knew that he was going to become the Three Eyed Raven, but Littlefinger never would have known that, so there must have been someone behind Littlefinger...right? Or am I missing something? voice do you know the answer to this?
I'm also curious how Bran and the other Starks are going to react when Jaime arrives. He did shove Bran out the window though in Jaimes defense he was peeping on them.
The other question I want answered is why someone sent an assassin to kill Bran. We know it was LF knife, but at the time there was no reason to kill him, unless someone knew that he was going to become the Three Eyed Raven, but Littlefinger never would have known that, so there must have been someone behind Littlefinger...right? Or am I missing something? voice do you know the answer to this?
My favorite spin on it is Marwyn the Mage.
A Dance with Dragons - Tyrion VIII Penny picked the cup of wine he'd poured for her and threw it in his face. Just like my sweet sister. He heard the galley door slam but never saw her leave. His eyes were stinging, and the world was a blur. So much for befriending her. Tyrion Lannister had scant experience with other dwarfs. His lord father had not welcomed any reminders of his son's deformities, and such mummers as featured little folk in their troupes soon learned to stay away from Lannisport and Casterly Rock, at the risk of his displeasure. Growing up, Tyrion heard reports of a dwarf jester at the seat of the Dornish Lord Fowler, a dwarf maester in service on the Fingers, and a female dwarf amongst the silent sisters, but he never felt the least need to seek them out. Less reliable tales also reached his ears, of a dwarf witch who haunted a hill in the riverlands, and a dwarf whore in King's Landing renowned for coupling with dogs. His own sweet sister had told him of the last, even offering to find him a bitch in heat if he cared to try it out. When he asked politely if she were referring to herself, Cersei had thrown a cup of wine in his face. That was red, as I recall, and this is gold. Tyrion mopped at his face with a sleeve. His eyes still stung.
Sam never states that Marwyn is a dwarf although his physical characteristics are dwarf-ish.
A Feast for Crows - Samwell V "Sam," said Alleras, "this is Archmaester Marwyn." Marwyn wore a chain of many metals around his bull's neck. Save for that, he looked more like a dockside thug than a maester. His head was too big for his body, and the way it thrust forward from his shoulders, together with that slab of jaw, made him look as if he were about to tear off someone's head. Though short and squat, he was heavy in the chest and shoulders, with a round, rock-hard ale belly straining at the laces of the leather jerkin he wore in place of robes. Bristly white hair sprouted from his ears and nostrils. His brow beetled, his nose had been broken more than once, and sourleaf had stained his teeth a mottled red. He had the biggest hands that Sam had ever seen.
Marwyn shows up by association with Mirri Maaz Duur, Qyburn and possibly Bael-ish and who knows more about prophecy and can use a glass candle?
The other question I want answered is why someone sent an assassin to kill Bran. We know it was LF knife, but at the time there was no reason to kill him, unless someone knew that he was going to become the Three Eyed Raven, but Littlefinger never would have known that, so there must have been someone behind Littlefinger...right? Or am I missing something? voice do you know the answer to this?
You're not missing anything. It's just bad writing. The show doesn't make sense.
In the books, the dagger belonged to Robert Baratheon. In both books and show, Petyr was in King's Landing when Bran and Catelyn were attacked. Petyr would not have known that Bran fell and was bedridden in order to send the catspaw... unless his ravens were using a Tardis, which is apparently quite possible in this show.
And, of course, Petyr Baelish, who was in King's Landing, would have had no way to arm a catspaw in Winterfell with Robert Baratheon's own knife.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
The other question I want answered is why someone sent an assassin to kill Bran. We know it was LF knife, but at the time there was no reason to kill him, unless someone knew that he was going to become the Three Eyed Raven, but Littlefinger never would have known that, so there must have been someone behind Littlefinger...right? Or am I missing something? voice do you know the answer to this?
You're not missing anything. It's just bad writing. The show doesn't make sense.
In the books, the dagger belonged to Robert Baratheon. In both books and show, Petyr was in King's Landing when Bran and Catelyn were attacked. Petyr would not have known that Bran fell and was bedridden in order to send the catspaw... unless his ravens were using a Tardis, which is apparently quite possible in this show.
And, of course, Petyr Baelish, who was in King's Landing, would have had no way to arm a catspaw in Winterfell with Robert Baratheon's own knife.
Yes, I agree with this assessment. Although there is still a threat to Bran in the books that isn't confined to the predations of the Bolton's etc. There is a reason that Bran must get beyond the Wall. He is able to see the enemy in his dreams, he can break into their fires:
A Game of Thrones - Bran IV Summer followed them up the tower steps as Hodor carried Bran back to his bed. Old Nan was asleep in her chair. Hodor said "Hodor," gathered up his great-grandmother, and carried her off, snoring softly, while Bran lay thinking. Robb had promised that he could feast with the Night's Watch in the Great Hall. "Summer," he called. The wolf bounded up on the bed. Bran hugged him so hard he could feel the hot breath on his cheek. "I can ride now," he whispered to his friend. "We can go hunting in the woods soon, wait and see." After a time he slept.
In his dream he was climbing again, pulling himself up an ancient windowless tower, his fingers forcing themselves between blackened stones, his feet scrabbling for purchase. Higher and higher he climbed, through the clouds and into the night sky, and still the tower rose before him. When he paused to look down, his head swam dizzily and he felt his fingers slipping. Bran cried out and clung for dear life. The earth was a thousand miles beneath him and he could not fly. He could not fly. He waited until his heart had stopped pounding, until he could breathe, and he began to climb again. There was no way to go but up. Far above him, outlined against a vast pale moon, he thought he could see the shapes of gargoyles. His arms were sore and aching, but he dared not rest. He forced himself to climb faster. The gargoyles watched him ascend. Their eyes glowed red as hot coals in a brazier. Perhaps once they had been lions, but now they were twisted and grotesque. Bran could hear them whispering to each other in soft stone voices terrible to hear. He must not listen, he told himself, he must not hear, so long as he did not hear them he was safe. But when the gargoyles pulled themselves loose from the stone and padded down the side of the tower to where Bran clung, he knew he was not safe after all. "I didn't hear," he wept as they came closer and closer, "I didn't, I didn't."
A Dance with Dragons - The Iron Suitor Grief's master awaited them on deck. A small man, as hairy as he was homely, he was a Sparr by birth. His men called him the Vole. "Lord Captain," he said when Victarion appeared, "this is Moqorro. A gift to us from the Drowned God." The wizard was a monster of a man, as tall as Victarion himself and twice as wide, with a belly like a boulder and a tangle of bone-white hair that grew about his face like a lion's mane. His skin was black. Not the nut brown of the Summer Islanders on their swan ships, nor the red-brown of the Dothraki horselords, nor the charcoal-and-earth color of the dusky woman's skin, but black. Blacker than coal, blacker than jet, blacker than a raven's wing. Burned, Victarion thought, like a man who has been roasted in the flames until his flesh chars and crisps and falls smoking from his bones. The fires that had charred him still danced across his cheeks and forehead, where his eyes peered out from amongst a mask of frozen flames. Slave tattoos, the captain knew. Marks of evil.
A Clash of Kings - Jon VII He sniffed at the bark, smelled wolf and tree and boy, but behind that there were other scents, the rich brown smell of warm earth and the hard grey smell of stone and something else, something terrible. Death, he knew. He was smelling death. He cringed back, his hair bristling, and bared his fangs.
Don't be afraid, I like it in the dark. No one can see you, but you can see them. But first you have to open your eyes. See? Like this. And the tree reached down and touched him.
Sorry, this is not about the show, but like Melisandre, others are looking for Bran.
The other question I want answered is why someone sent an assassin to kill Bran. We know it was LF knife, but at the time there was no reason to kill him
In the book, it is made clear (strongly implied?) that it was Joeffrey who hired the assassin to kill Bran. This was supposedly to impress his father (Robert) who had made a comment something to the effect that it would be a mercy for Bran to die. The knife was evidently Robert's