It squashed RLJ way too much for Westeros.org and Reddit's liking.
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Long version requires a lengthy examination of the evolution of the fandom, the creation of the television series, and the way GRRM has profited from both.
I trust GRRM as far as I can throw him, and it seems he is making that harder to do every passing year. So, in spite of him saying he wouldn't change the ending just because a few folks had figured it out, I think he would totaly change the ending. If there's one thing he likes to do, it's torture his fanbase. And if there's one thing he's learned from the past six years, it's that the fanbase will accept mediocre storytelling... and apparently... they LOVE the romance novel version.
He has learned that it isn't about quality, or even quantity, but popularity. I hate to be so cynical, but the guy has earned nothing else.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
It squashed RLJ way too much for Westeros.org and Reddit's liking.
/story
Long version requires a lengthy examination of the evolution of the fandom, the creation of the television series, and the way GRRM has profited from both.
I trust GRRM as far as I can throw him, and it seems he is making that harder to do every passing year. So, in spite of him saying he wouldn't change the ending just because a few folks had figured it out, I think he would totaly change the ending. If there's one thing he likes to do, it's torture his fanbase. And if there's one thing he's learned from the past six years, it's that the fanbase will accept mediocre storytelling... and apparently... they LOVE the romance novel version.
He has learned that it isn't about quality, or even quantity, but popularity. I hate to be so cynical, but the guy has earned nothing else.
I didn't realize that comment was redacted. He doesn't seem to care about pissing people off. So I think he'll do whatever he wants in the books but I doubt it will be RLJ redux since that's been done. No doubt more people will be pissed off, but it won't stop them from buying WoW cause it didn't stop them from watching the show. There's a lot of traction to the 'surprise' reveal.
It squashed RLJ way too much for Westeros.org and Reddit's liking.
/story
Long version requires a lengthy examination of the evolution of the fandom, the creation of the television series, and the way GRRM has profited from both.
I trust GRRM as far as I can throw him, and it seems he is making that harder to do every passing year. So, in spite of him saying he wouldn't change the ending just because a few folks had figured it out, I think he would totaly change the ending. If there's one thing he likes to do, it's torture his fanbase. And if there's one thing he's learned from the past six years, it's that the fanbase will accept mediocre storytelling... and apparently... they LOVE the romance novel version.
He has learned that it isn't about quality, or even quantity, but popularity. I hate to be so cynical, but the guy has earned nothing else.
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
That being said, it's phrased that he won't change the ending, but I also highly doubt that Jon's parentage is the ending. He could very easily change Jon's parentage without changing the ending he has in mind. I say this after reading a mind-numbingly stupid RLJ thread on Reddit just now. I want nothing more than these people to be wrong lol.
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
He did take a trip to his publisher recently. It can take up to a year for the publisher to get it out. If it's not published next year, I will say to hell with it as well.
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
He did take a trip to his publisher recently. It can take up to a year for the publisher to get it out. If it's not published next year, I will say to hell with it as well.
They pumped aDwD out in 90 days, with shitty editing and all.
GRRM may be working on it; question is: How much is he scrapping and rewriting?
It squashed RLJ way too much for Westeros.org and Reddit's liking.
/story
Long version requires a lengthy examination of the evolution of the fandom, the creation of the television series, and the way GRRM has profited from both.
I trust GRRM as far as I can throw him, and it seems he is making that harder to do every passing year. So, in spite of him saying he wouldn't change the ending just because a few folks had figured it out, I think he would totaly change the ending. If there's one thing he likes to do, it's torture his fanbase. And if there's one thing he's learned from the past six years, it's that the fanbase will accept mediocre storytelling... and apparently... they LOVE the romance novel version.
He has learned that it isn't about quality, or even quantity, but popularity. I hate to be so cynical, but the guy has earned nothing else.
5 spin-offs? Who said 5 spin-offs?
6 spin-offs!!! Heck, why not 7 spin-offs for 7 kingdoms?! (Hardy-har-har, Anne - up yours!)
Let´s face it, GRRM only started aSoIaF to get back at Tinseltown after they canned *Beauty and the Beast*.
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
He did take a trip to his publisher recently. It can take up to a year for the publisher to get it out. If it's not published next year, I will say to hell with it as well.
He does that annually though, doesn't he?
And he's releasing an anthology in 2 weeks and Fire and Blood in 2018 or 2019. And working with HBO on more spinoffs. I'm not spending a dime on anything until TWoW is released. I'm out on GRRM until then.
He did take a trip to his publisher recently. It can take up to a year for the publisher to get it out. If it's not published next year, I will say to hell with it as well.
He does that annually though, doesn't he?
And he's releasing an anthology in 2 weeks and Fire and Blood in 2018 or 2019. And working with HBO on more spinoffs. I'm not spending a dime on anything until TWoW is released. I'm out on GRRM until then.
He did take a trip to his publisher recently. It can take up to a year for the publisher to get it out. If it's not published next year, I will say to hell with it as well.
He does that annually though, doesn't he?
And he's releasing an anthology in 2 weeks and Fire and Blood in 2018 or 2019. And working with HBO on more spinoffs. I'm not spending a dime on anything until TWoW is released. I'm out on GRRM until then.
Don't know but I don't want to wait around much longer. I doubt I'll even be around for the last book. I'm not spending on anything else either.
It squashed RLJ way too much for Westeros.org and Reddit's liking.
/story
Long version requires a lengthy examination of the evolution of the fandom, the creation of the television series, and the way GRRM has profited from both.
I trust GRRM as far as I can throw him, and it seems he is making that harder to do every passing year. So, in spite of him saying he wouldn't change the ending just because a few folks had figured it out, I think he would totaly change the ending. If there's one thing he likes to do, it's torture his fanbase. And if there's one thing he's learned from the past six years, it's that the fanbase will accept mediocre storytelling... and apparently... they LOVE the romance novel version.
He has learned that it isn't about quality, or even quantity, but popularity. I hate to be so cynical, but the guy has earned nothing else.
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
That being said, it's phrased that he won't change the ending, but I also highly doubt that Jon's parentage is the ending. He could very easily change Jon's parentage without changing the ending he has in mind. I say this after reading a mind-numbingly stupid RLJ thread on Reddit just now. I want nothing more than these people to be wrong lol.
Lol I can imagine.
I don't mean to trash RLJ. It remains a very possible outcome. But it tends to cloud the critical thinking process in a way that makes it very difficult to examine details on their own merits.
There are some parts of RLJ that would be awesome, and would make sense in terms of past and present plots. I really like kingmonkey's RLJ essay:
It's a very honest examination that makes me really want it to be true.
But yes, regardless of the parentage, it's of far more concern for the fandom than it is for GRRM's ending. So easy to conflate the two in the ASOIAF community.
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Pfft, I'm slowly joining the camp that thinks he isn't even working on TWoW anymore.
That being said, it's phrased that he won't change the ending, but I also highly doubt that Jon's parentage is the ending. He could very easily change Jon's parentage without changing the ending he has in mind. I say this after reading a mind-numbingly stupid RLJ thread on Reddit just now. I want nothing more than these people to be wrong lol.
Lol I can imagine.
I don't mean to trash RLJ. It remains a very possible outcome. But it tends to cloud the critical thinking process in a way that makes it very difficult to examine details on their own merits.
There are some parts of RLJ that would be awesome, and would make sense in terms of past and present plots. I really like kingmonkey's RLJ essay:
It's a very honest examination that makes me really want it to be true.
But yes, regardless of the parentage, it's of far more concern for the fandom than it is for GRRM's ending. So easy to conflate the two in the ASOIAF community.
Yeah, my thing is, I can't argue "where there's smoke there's fire" for Ned+Ashara and not give Rhaegar+Lyanna that same credit, and frankly, it's not even a bad theory and as a non-fantasy fan, it was awesome when I heard it. But I don't think that it's GRRM. At all. Like seeing his wife say how simple that would be, whether she was trying to detract attention from if or not, is almost like a "if you think this is that kind of story you haven't been paying attention" type comment. Very eye-opening IMO.
Because even if RLJ turns out to be true, she's essentially planted that seed in fans' heads that it isn't good writing for him to do so. Really odd if RLJ is true.
I have to go with Marg on this one. I don't think these are false memories but mixed up in some way. I think the house with the red door is on the Summer Islands and she shipped with trading vessels and fishing ships around the southern part of the Narrow Sea.
A Game of Thrones - Eddard IV And so Ned had come striding into the council chambers, bone-tired and dressed in borrowed clothing, to find four members of the small council waiting for him.
The chamber was richly furnished. Myrish carpets covered the floor instead of rushes, and in one corner a hundred fabulous beasts cavorted in bright paints on a carved screen from the Summer Isles. The walls were hung with tapestries from Norvos and Qohor and Lys, and a pair of Valyrian sphinxes flanked the door, eyes of polished garnet smoldering in black marble faces
A Clash of Kings - Daenerys IV She fled from him, but only as far as the next open door. I know this room, she thought. She remembered those great wooden beams and the carved animal faces that adorned them. And there outside the window, a lemon tree! The sight of it made her heart ache with longing. It is the house with the red door, the house in Braavos.
At the market in Vaes Dothrak with Summer Islanders she remembers the smells of home:
A Game of Thrones - Daenerys VI Dany smiled shyly. It was sweet to laugh. She felt half a girl again.
They wandered for half the morning. She saw a beautiful feathered cloak from the Summer Isles, and took it for a gift. In return, she gave the merchant a silver medallion from her belt. That was how it was done among the Dothraki. A birdseller taught a green-and-red parrot to say her name, and Dany laughed again, yet still refused to take him. What would she do with a green-and-red parrot in a khalasar? She did take a dozen flasks of scented oils, the perfumes of her childhood; she had only to close her eyes and sniff them and she could see the big house with the red door once more. When Doreah looked longingly at a fertility charm at a magician's booth, Dany took that too and gave it to the handmaid, thinking that now she should find something for Irri and Jhiqui as well.
Neat possibility! I haven't thought of it and never seen it either before, but I haven't been around Asoiaf books focused forums in a long time.
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