Post by SlyWren on Jun 25, 2017 4:53:34 GMT
Exactly! And he had no one to help putting the pieces back together. Seeing him starting this process gave me something like a motherly pride, LOL!
In many ways he is the masculine parallell to Sansa: an idealistic and unrealistic kid who comes to KL and gets thoroughly chewed up and spit out. And neither had/has an adult with healthy moral grounding helping them in the aftermath. I hope Sansa will fare better than Jamie!
OOOH! I like that parallel. Granted, Sansa didn't kill anyone--but she did betray her father in a misguided desire to fulfill her dreams of being queen.
Jaime was actually trying to save people.
Sansa seems to be learning--as is Jaime. She's moving faster than he did--but that may very well be because the stigma of her own failure wasn't constantly thrown in her face.
I don't really blame him for avoiding this at the time, but doing so over so many years I think is heavily influenced by Cercei's pussypower.
"He chased her and caught her and gave her his seed"--not a good story even for a kid.
So being forced to spend time with knightly honor become flesh is all the more potent!
"In the beginning was the word"--and that word was "I swore an oath," by Brienne.
Thank you! I'll have a look into what armstark has to say later, can't place the name at the moment. It really is an interesting dream, and can be seen in so many ways!
He only posts here and on Westeros sporadically. But he knows the dreams well--and has some interesting ideas.
I don't get the feeling of him regretting the killing of Aerys the person, but as he held the position of king conflict arises as there is no good answer. So he does have the right end of the stick in his chat with the stoneheart: no matter what he did, he would break a vow.
I would argue that the KG oath is more murky than many others, as the valor of guarding a king is all down to the king in question: is he worthy of holding this office or not.
YUP! Vowing to do what is "right" and protect the weak--that's an oath to morality. But an oath to a king? It's "might makes right" not "might for right."
Agreed--though I'm thinking the fact that very young Cersei was gorgeous might very well have seemed a plus to young Rhaegar.
I could possibly get on board with the possible public humiliation, but if Rhaegar wanted an alliance with Tywin executing Jamie would kill all hope of this. Doing this OR having Jamie taking the black would turn Tywin against Rhaegar in a heartbeat, and Rhaegar knows much and more about what that means...
What I do see is Rhaegar pardoning Jamie for the killing and then releasing him from the KG, and voilà: Tywin has his heir back. (But personally, if I'm going to picture Rhaegar winning the throne, I'd like to see Jamie fully mentored by the KG.)