stdaga, elifsu, Qarth is important i think . How was the city able to withstand the Freehold ? I read it may have something to do with tourmaline being resistant to fire but i am ignorant on the topic . Maybe Dany grew up there ? They must have lemoms LOL
I tie Varys to Qarth and Sorrowful Men but I do not think Daenerys is from Qarth, I search for her past in Tyrosh, Lys, and Norvos but not Qarth. Tourmaline as fire resistant is interesting, or maybe Qartheen tried to build positive relationships with Valyria to ptotect them against Dothraki?
Qarth is important i think . How was the city able to withstand the Freehold ? I read it may have something to do with tourmaline being resistant to fire but i am ignorant on the topic . Maybe Dany grew up there ? They must have lemoms LOL
It does seem like the Tourmaline Brotherhood is linked specifically to Qarth, although I don't know what that will eventually mean for the story. As for Tourmaline, it can be affected by heat. It will change color when heat is applied to it, and with great heat, it will be destroyed. The gemstones that can withstand the most heat are diamonds, rubies and sapphires. Rubies and sapphires are both types of corundum. Amethyst is also interesting when it comes to the Valyrian's and in our real world, amethyst can be heat treated in an attempt to enhance it's color but it can also crack or fade if exposed to high temperatures. Most crystals will alter in the sun, usually this includes fading of the original color. I suppose gemstones, like crystals, can be conductor's of energy, so perhaps tourmaline could "charge" or store energy in a special way?
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Or Andals hide their early arrival, I also love to suspect Nymeria directly sailed to Dorne from Rhoyne and the petrified ship at the Sunspear is hers, and she had an army with her not civilians. So my thoughts are speculation too, maybe Twow will clear things for us.
Perhaps all of Nymeria's people were warriors. If people are pushed hard enough, they will fight back, and certainly the Valeryan's and Rhoynar had been at war for quite some time. I suppose women as well as men could have been warriors, but what we are told about Nymeria herself is that she did not bear arms but she did directly command her own armies. This reminds me of Dany.
As to the round towers, I just don't know how this will all translate out about the history of Westeros. There seems little doubt the history has been jumbled and teaching has been modified, but the big question for me is why did this happen?
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
The splendid prince Rheagar who loved music, often went to flea bottom in disguise to sing amongst the people. Flea bottom, the home of the infamous Davos seaworth. After a friendship forms, rheagar comes to rely on his own personal smuggler. The perfect man to sneak wildfire stolen from King Aerys to the tower of joy for his friend and prince (with the help of the Daynes of course). The pregnant queen was also snuck off to dragonstone by a Black-sailed ship in the middle of the night, and a young Dany was rescued by Darry, FOUR loyal men, and a wetnurse. Now Dany was "storm born" yet no other characters or records have any reference to what was supposedly the greatest storm of the age. This storm not only sunk an entire fleet, but supposedly tore parapets and stones off of dragonstone's keep as well. The magically fused Dragonfire built keep.
Davos snuck the Targaryens to dragonstone, and later helped Darry plus 4, and a wetnurse escape Dragonstone before Stannis could ever even get a new fleet built.
Rheagar planned to burn "first the father, then the son." Just as it happened in summerhall when rheagar was born. Using the wildfire that Davos smuggled for him. That's how two men (Ned+Howland) somehow managed to pull down a fuckin tower, they didn't: the wildfire blew it up.
Was it truly dragonstone though? The Targaryens were apparently long gone before stannis got there. Perhaps they were never brought to dragonstone, but to STARFALL. Rheagar meant to use the TOJ to replicate what happened at summerhall when he was born. Davos saved edric storm because he couldn't allow children to be sacrificed for "prophecy" again.
Ned arrived to the toj after relieving stannis, to find out what was about to happen
"Promise me ned"
Promise me you'll let him wake the dragons.
But Ned broke the promise for the same reason he abandoned his dear friend Robert. Dead children.
Ned did the honorable thing, just as Dunc did at summerhall. Tried, at least. Howland the crannogman of greenseer blood however, believed in prophecy heavily. Howland was in on it ever since he encountered Rheagar during his trip to the isle of faces.
I responded to this idea over on the fDany thread, but one thing I didn't understand from that, and forgot to mention, is what father/son that Rhaegar planned to burn?
It almost makes sense that Aerys was also trying to do a version of this with Rickard and Brandon's death, but perhaps Brandon spoiled his plan by taking his own life first. Perhaps Aerys meant to kill Rickard by fire first, then Brandon? There are some hints of fire with Brandon's statue in the crypts, but only the leg of the statue was scorched. Wild fire was used in Rickard's death.
What if Rhaegar's plan then included Ned and his son, if the Stark's are important in this. Maybe Jon was the son at risk? And Ned saved him? Unless Rhaegar planned to take his own life and the life of a son he had produced? But his idea of suicide to produce a dragon has never made much sense to me. But I guess Dany does a crooked version of this to wake her own dragons, and manages to survive, but she is missing the remains of her own child in that pyre.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Post by asharadaynedragonblood on Jul 11, 2020 7:27:26 GMT
Have you realised that Rhaegar and Dany only had 1/8 of Targaryen genetics left in their blood? That also applies for Aerys and Rhaella, as they interbreeded. Why then does Dany have the full Targaryen dragon traits? Because they are not Targaryen traits at all. It is a misleading and George hid this in the family tree. If you look then the former generations in the Targaryens married Martell, Dayne and Blackwood, thus watering down their own genetics. We do know that AegonV was convinced he could hatch dragons again. His mother was a Dayne. The Daynes have "Targaryen" looks, which are in fact not Valyrian but Dawn Age looks. And we also know that the old dragonlords came from the Dawn Age.
Thus being said: if Dany is NOT Rhaellas daughter but Rhaegars and Asharas daughter, then she has dominant Dayne and Blackwood genetics. That would explain the dragonhatching ability and the magic she is attached to.
Have you realised that Rhaegar and Dany only had 1/8 of Targaryen genetics left in their blood? That also applies for Aerys and Rhaella, as they interbreeded. Why then does Dany have the full Targaryen dragon traits? Because they are not Targaryen traits at all. It is a misleading and George hid this in the family tree. If you look then the former generations in the Targaryens married Martell, Dayne and Blackwood, thus watering down their own genetics. We do know that AegonV was convinced he could hatch dragons again. His mother was a Dayne. The Daynes have "Targaryen" looks, which are in fact not Valyrian but Dawn Age looks. And we also know that the old dragonlords came from the Dawn Age.
Thus being said: if Dany is NOT Rhaellas daughter but Rhaegars and Asharas daughter, then she has dominant Dayne and Blackwood genetics. That would explain the dragonhatching ability and the magic she is attached to.
Well, Targaryen lineage is a mess imo since I do not belive Aenys' father was Aegon I but Aethan Velaryon. From him and his half sister we have Jaehaerys and Alysanne, but I think it is possible Alysanne had a relation with Lucamore the Lusty, Baelon and Alyssa being his children. From Viserys to Aegon III things seem fairly normal, I wouldn't speculate on lineage of Aemond although I do think his mother was a bastard of Saera and his wife was a Blackwood. With Aegon III we have another Velaryon marriage while "Viserys II" comes back with a wife from Lys. So I would say Daenerys Targaryen is a chimera, a Bene Geserit figure, made to hatch dragons something Targaryens failed after Aegon III, that's because Aegon III descendants were driven away, I belive Daemon Blackfyre was son of Daena and Baelor, and GRRM wanted him to marry someone named Serena, a possible descendant of Saera, any of their descendants could marry Eleana's and merge dragon genes.