That all may mean nothing, given how IMDb gathers its info. But there's a chance.
I take it to mean nothing. There is no Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, or Gerold Hightower in the show. There's no white cloaks in the show. There's no KG armour in the show. These men are just Targaryen loyalists. Someone just edited his page to say that he's Arthur Dayne because he's the one who speaks Arthur's line in the trailer.
Go to Luke Robert's CV page and he's listed as Rowland Selwyn for Game of Thrones.
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!
“At first, I was worried that he’ll wake up and he’s the same, back to normal — then there’s no point in that death,” Harington says. “He needs to change. There’s a brilliant line when Melisandre asks: ‘What did you see?’ And he says: ‘Nothing, there was nothing at all.’ That cuts right to our deepest fear, that there’s nothing after death. And that’s the most important line in the whole season for me. Jon’s never been afraid of death, and that’s made him a strong and honorable person. He realizes something about his life now: He has to live it, because that’s all there is. He’s been over the line and there’s nothing there. And that changes him. It literally puts the fear of god into him. He’s seen oblivion and that’s got to change somebody in the most fundamental way there is. He doesn’t want to die ever again. But if he does, he doesn’t want to be brought back.”
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!
That all may mean nothing, given how IMDb gathers its info. But there's a chance.
I take it to mean nothing. There is no Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent, or Gerold Hightower in the show. There's no white cloaks in the show. There's no KG armour in the show. These men are just Targaryen loyalists. Someone just edited his page to say that he's Arthur Dayne because he's the one who speaks Arthur's line in the trailer.
Go to Luke Robert's CV page and he's listed as Rowland Selwyn for Game of Thrones.
Hey Mark, shut up.
Lol
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
“At first, I was worried that he’ll wake up and he’s the same, back to normal — then there’s no point in that death,” Harington says. “He needs to change. There’s a brilliant line when Melisandre asks: ‘What did you see?’ And he says: ‘Nothing, there was nothing at all.’ That cuts right to our deepest fear, that there’s nothing after death. And that’s the most important line in the whole season for me. Jon’s never been afraid of death, and that’s made him a strong and honorable person. He realizes something about his life now: He has to live it, because that’s all there is. He’s been over the line and there’s nothing there. And that changes him. It literally puts the fear of god into him. He’s seen oblivion and that’s got to change somebody in the most fundamental way there is. He doesn’t want to die ever again. But if he does, he doesn’t want to be brought back.”
I'm going to be watching the show closely this week to see whether or not Ghost's interactions with Jon change significantly--particularly if he begins acting hostile or distrustful toward him, which would (IMHO) be a big red flag. I think I'll be kind of disappointed if, after all of that, Jon is essentially just a repeat of Beric.
There's no KG armour in the show. These men are just Targaryen loyalists. Someone just edited his page to say that he's Arthur Dayne because he's the one who speaks Arthur's line in the trailer.
Go to Luke Robert's CV page and he's listed as Rowland Selwyn for Game of Thrones.
Very, very possible. But we do know they used code names for characters and that it got confusing for the regular actors. So, there's still hope!
I think I'll be kind of disappointed if, after all of that, Jon is essentially just a repeat of Beric.
Amen.
They NEED to get the other kids wolf dreaming. As soon as possible. And if Jon come back unchanged, they NEED to explain why.
But they probably won't. *sigh*
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
- Jon talks with Edd and Davos and Mel about what happened - Dany is brought to the Dosh Khaleen. Jorah and Daario are captured trying to rescue her - Jamie and Cersei talk about the Tyrells. Jaime encourages Cersei to make peace with them because Doran changed his mind. Qyburn tells Cersei that Littlefinger has been working with the Tyrells. - Tommen meets with the High Sparrow. Mountain kills some Faith secondaries - Sam gives Gilly some Oldtown exposition - Jon pardons Thorne but has the rest of the mutineers killed. Ghost kills Olly. Jon makes Thorne watch the killings. Davos tells Jon that his sister is at the gate. - Smalljon Umber meets with Ramsey. Umbers are anti-Stark because Jon let the wildlings through. He has a boy, a woman and a wolf with him. Osha says the boy is Rickon. He is played by a different actor. - Bloodraven and Bran talk about Ned, Cat, Robb and Jon - Bran has a vision of Tower of Joy. It's 6v2 (not 7v3). Dayne uses two swords from the start of the fight. Eventually it is Dayne vs Ned and Howland Reed. Reed kills Dayne and Ned rescues his sister but she dies in childbirth. Ned promises to raise the child.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
- Jon talks with Edd and Davos and Mel about what happened - Dany is brought to the Dosh Khaleen. Jorah and Daario are captured trying to rescue her - Jamie and Cersei talk about the Tyrells. Jaime encourages Cersei to make peace with them because Doran changed his mind. Qyburn tells Cersei that Littlefinger has been working with the Tyrells. - Tommen meets with the High Sparrow. Mountain kills some Faith secondaries - Sam gives Gilly some Oldtown exposition - Jon pardons Thorne but has the rest of the mutineers killed. Ghost kills Olly. Jon makes Thorne watch the killings. Davos tells Jon that his sister is at the gate. - Smalljon Umber meets with Ramsey. Umbers are anti-Stark because Jon let the wildlings through. He has a boy, a woman and a wolf with him. Osha says the boy is Rickon. He is played by a different actor. - Bloodraven and Bran talk about Ned, Cat, Robb and Jon - Bran has a vision of Tower of Joy. It's 6v2 (not 7v3). Dayne uses two swords from the start of the fight. Eventually it is Dayne vs Ned and Howland Reed. Reed kills Dayne and Ned rescues his sister but she dies in childbirth. Ned promises to raise the child.
Ok ppl, DON'T READ SlyWren's spoiler because it's a biggie if it's true. This reply is regarding it, but I will not spoil it.
I was just thinking, related to my other post about how the show really can't go wrong with Jon's parentage for casual viewers (and even most readers), that it would be really funny if D&D NEVER reveal his father in the show.
They really don't need to in terms of show-plot. At all. And GRRM only asked them who they thought Jon's mother was when they were pitching the show. I think it would be awesome if that was all they revealed. It would break the Internet.
Well, it will break westeros.org regardless. I'm sure we'll be just fine. Lol
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
I was just thinking, related to my other post about how the show really can't go wrong with Jon's parentage for casual viewers (and even most readers), that it would be really funny if D&D NEVER reveal his father in the show.
Well, since they may be arguing that there is nothing after death, seems like they might say his birth parents aren't all that relevant.
And it would fit the Jon-sus thing.
But, as you say, it would also be funny. And help hype the books.
They really don't need to in terms of show-plot. At all. And GRRM only asked them who they thought Jon's mother was when they were pitching the show. I think it would be awesome if that was all they revealed. It would break the Internet.
Yup!!
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Okay, based on this picture--doesn't it look like Bloodraven is once again taking Bran away before Bran wants to go?
And they are outside.
So. . . I'm thinking we get the fight and that's it. A gap until another episode.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Reddit's got a translation of yet another set of leaks purported to be from The Spanish Dude. They have some differences from the post I made earlier.
The video got taken down. I have no idea if it is all legit or not. But if you want to avoid leaks, avoid Reddit.
Here's the link to the rough translation someone did of The Spanish Dude's video: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/4i7bno/frikidoctor_is_uploading_episode_3_spoilers/
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
SlyWren, This might be exactly the same as what you posted, I'm not sure, because I actually didn't read it or yours up to this point, but I pulled this off of IWC? It's supposed to be a summary from the Spanish Video Guy.
The Wall: Melissandre ask what did he saw while he was dead. Jon says nothing. Meli says that Stannis might not be Azor Ahai after all but Jon. He think this is very weird and understand nothing. Davos is freaking out, and ask what happen. Everybody goes to the yard, "you are a god, etc...".
Sam: On the boat, Sam is about to puke, they need to go to Sam house because Old Town don't allow chicks. His father is an asshole, but mom and sis are good people.
TOJ: The conversation we know already. Dayne fucks everybody and beat Ned, but Howland kill Arthur in the back. A woman is screaming; Bran somehow scream Dad. Ned turn around but sees nothing. And the 3xEyeCrow says: "We will go back here another time" <NdT: Motherfucker...>
Vaes Dorak Apparently half chapter about telling that widows go there, the rules and so on, to Dae.
Meeren: A woman with a sick child have info about the Harpy. Varis offers health and a ship full of silver if she tells something. Everybody is conspiring against Meeren (Yunkai and the rest). Grayworm said that the best is attack directly, leaving Meeren undefended even.
King's Landing: Qyburn is just talking with the kid. Tells Cersei or Jaime that he just "tweak" the mountain a little bit to improve it. The children are the new little birds, they were good with Varis, and they are also good with Qyburn. Jaime says that the Mountain should go to the Baelor Sept to blast the High Sparrow head. The council is talking, Olena, Pircell, Kevan, the guy that sing in bravos, etc.... Kevan is the hand of the king. Cersei and the Mountain crash the council, and the conversation goes no where. Tommen ask the HS to left Cersei come back to see Mircela, HS says no sinner allowed. And that she need to purge her sin before the seven.
Arya: Who are you? Nobody, x 200. ... and then Who WERE you? I was Arya Stark, who do you want to kill? Why didn't you kill the dog? ; again with Jaquen Who are you? Nobody x200. Arya pass the test of the annoying god, got a bowl with magic water, and her eyesight come back.
Winterfell: Why are you here Umber here? Aren't you loyal to the Stark?. I was, but Jon Snow have an army of wildling that are going to fuck my lands. Kneel and I will help you No Wut??? How I'm going to trust you? You will because I'm bringing you Osha and Rickon.
The Wall again: Four hanging people, Bower Marsh, Harwick, Thorne, and Olly (yes!). Before hanging them, Jon talk a bit with them. Marsh: You should be dead!, Harwick: Please tell my family I died honorably. Thorne: I would do this again!. Olly: (says nothing). Cut the main rope, all four fall down, last frame is Olly dying. Jon give the Lord Commander cape to Ed. Ed ask "what should I do with his?" Jon: "Whatever you want, because my watch has ended".
THE END.
I can't decide if I actually want to read these or not.
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
So. . . I'm thinking we get the fight and that's it. A gap until another episode.
I wouldn't be surprised. I did come across another clip that looks a lot like what we've been shown of Arthur Dayne so far. In spite of markg171 trying to kill our SotM buzz, you can see why Ned would think his sword is "alive with light."