Post by shymaid on May 27, 2017 4:25:12 GMT
shymaid if we are now talking about Harrenhal might I direct you to another thread.
thelasthearth.com/thread/1124/harrenhal-conspiracy
Its an expansion on the Southron Ambition's theory.
LOL! Sorry if I'm derailing here! I just want to answer danls last points, and I don't know how to do that in another thread (I'm not very technically competent... ). It won't take long and then I'll stop, I promise. Feel free to move it if you or any other staff want to!
And I'll take a look at that thread later! Thank you!
As Martin said he could write a whole book on what took place at HH, I haven't focused much on it yet. Need to get a better grip on what we have in the books first.
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
I don't even have a head canon that addresses what Lyanna did or what was done to her. I don't think she was unwillingly kidnapped by Rhaegar. I think she was plotting, likely at something dark. That's about the best I can do.I pretty much stated every thought I have on the matter earlier, and I'm very far from any sort of conclution!
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
Rickard probably knew that a trip to King's Landing meant his death. Surely Brandon knew it meant his. Rebellion was brewing and either could have chosen the security of Winterfell. But going there was more important than staying away. The motivations we are given (Rickard obeying a summons from the king and Brandon out of rage) don't seem to be enough at a time when rebellion is brewing and death in KL a near certainty (unless burned bones prove nothing).His death yes, probably not the death of Brandon and his men.
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
Likely he had some secrets that came from Ashara. But something held him back from joining that conspiracy, even though he older brother was part of it. He didn't want to step up so she had to approach him.You would expect that, once a conspiracy to bring down a King fell apart, some of the conspirators would join the open rebellion. Other than Ned (who was reluctant) none did.
This plot appears to be in support of Rhaegar, with Lonmouth distracting Robert. But everyone who danced with Ashara is from the Northern or Southern extremes of Westeros. (Some say the White Sword is Gerald Hightower, but I'm going with SAD). It seems like an odd combination for a political conspiracy. And Ned is an odd choice for inclusion since his older brother is there, unless Brandon knew that Ned would soon rule House Stark.
Maybe they wanted to use Neds closeness to Arryn? That is one thing Ned had that Brandon didn't.
As for the others not joining the rebellion; I think they saw Rhaegar as their king, and this was against him also. So joining would be a no-go for that reason alone.
I don't really have many thoughts on this yet.
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
Not sure where it all points except that it seems to line up with those theories that say that the Sword of the Morning should somehow be a Stark or that Dawn=Ice. And whatever AD whispered to Ned, in the dance or later, probably lead to that meeting at the ToJ.Could be, could be!
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
If you haven't read voice's Weirwood Ghost essay and the accompanying thread. Find it!I will in time! The white-red-black theme I want to read as unsoiled as possible. Reading other peoples thoughts can put a line of thought in your head (good or bad), and I want to avoid that on this one. Sometimes I lament that I came to the books with theories somewhat logged in my head, but it can't be changed.
May 27, 2017 2:22:14 GMT danl said:
I can't do that. Images and ideas burn themselves in my brain and I can't distinguish whether they came from screen or page.For some reason I'm able to do that for the most part, not really sure how! Some lines have placed them selves firmly in my mind though, as they're so good, so I'm kinda disapointed they're not in the books. Fortunately they don't take away or change any meaning, just things being put very well.