Bran's scene was just sort of creepy. When Sansa turned and left the expression on her face looked like she was thinking "good grief as if I don't have enough on my plate, my little brother has completely wigged out."
Ah! I saw that more as Sansa being freaked out that her little brother knew what happened to her without her telling him. . .
Poor Meera didn't even get to have a line. She was probably in the castle having a shower since she hasn't had one in like six seasons, going "you don't know the half of it. I have had to drag that kid all over the North."
This--some of the leaks are saying that Meera just gets shunted out of screen. No attempt at even a fig leaf of a good bye.
That would suck. Meera wasn't my favorite, but they invested a lot in the Reeds, including Howland.
At least give the girl a parting gift. A new frog spear. Something.
Amen--some of it feels great--the pacing of Olenna's scene. The execution of Tyene was spot on. That girl can act!!!--as long she's gagged!!
But the attack on Casterly Rock seemed like it all could have happened off camera. So rushed.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
1. This does not feel like home 2. I don't remember it + All the titles 3. Dany identity crisis incoming?
They've been hinting at it for a while with her talk about "Rhaegar wasn't the last dragon" and tying her to being like Rhaegar and distancing her from her father.
There's a good chance this is really going somewhere--I really think markg171 is right on this.
David & Dan like to have their little digs at us "nerds". The fact that the the (f)Dany theory is only really well known around the boards & on reddit makes it more likely (imo) that they would take a swipe at us like this. I'll always remember that shot of the river Trident and the brief second I thought we were getting LS before Sandor literally took a piss on that idea.
Right--but Lady Stoneheart is actually in the books.
And fDany, while known among the book-dom, is heavily pushed back against by many in the book-dom.
Lady Stoneheart, RLJ, even AJT--those are really well known and have been around forever. And Lady Stoneheart's an actual thing.
And D&D said Martin gave them one last WTF moment in the books. A twist no one thought of, or something.
And I am actually fanatical enough to think it's that Dany is not who she thinks she is--that's she's Rhaegar's third head.
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All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
Don't know if they are trolls who are giving us RLJ or planning to pull the rug out from under the theory.
But they are definitely trolls.
All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors. Oscar Wilde.
(i think Preston Jacobs is the one who made the comment that Dany in the books is much more like Emilia IRL, and i find that to be spot on)
Did he?
I swear I thought that I thought of that parallel myself. Mayhaps I absorbed it from one of his vids and forgot. Tis a frequent topic of discussion between the wife and I. We've unintentionally watched some of her movies over the years, including this one from before we even read the books:
(Yes, we are avid fans of both hilariously bad movies, and hilariously bad music) LOL
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
It was something i picked up from one of his trailer analysis videos (S7 E2 i believe). You might have had the idea before, but this was the first i'd heard it...
Tyrion didn't know Jamie that well as a commander.Didn't seem to know that since the Greyjoy allies and the Dornish were taken out that Oleana would be the obvious target once you got that news.
This part was so dumb.
Jaime: "I attacked where they didn't expect me"
There are 5 places in Westoros in rebellion to the throne: Winterfell, the Eyrie, Dragonstone, Sunspear, and Highgarden
Jaime's already said he can't attack the north with it being winter. The Vale forces are in the north, but Jaime again is also dealing with the foe he's facing instead of the future foe, and the Vale forces are not attacking Lannisters, they've just killed Boltons. So Jaime wouldn't attack either the north or Vale. That leaves Dragonstone, Sunspear, and Highgarden.
Dragonstone cannot be attacked. Dany has 3 dragons, every Dothraki horde, and a (partial) fleet. Jaime cannot take Dragonstone. That leaves Sunspear and Highgarden.
A look at any map will show you that Sunspear is further away from King's Landing than Highgarden, assuming you don't go by boat, which you shouldn't be able to do what with Dany controlling Dragonstone. Sunspear is also naturally protected from invasion by the Dornish mountains, while Highgarden sits in the middle of the notoriously open Reach. Highgarden is also much closer to Casterly Rock and the Iron Islands, both of the Crown's allies, while Sunspear is closer to Dragonstone, where Ellaria's allies are.
Essentially speaking, Highgarden is the obvious counterattack from the Crown. It's practically the only logical place they could attack. Dragonstone is too strong, Sunspear too far and too close to Dragonstone. Highgarden is obviously isolated and open to attack. Even before you get into the fact that Jaime had already swayed Randyll Tarly to support his disposal of the Tyrells.
Jaime didn't attack anywhere that shouldn't have been expecting an attack. He attacked the obvious target. Dany's team is just made up of incompetent generals. It would've made more logic for Jaime to acknowledge that he's facing a superior force but not that he's also facing superior generals, hence how he pulled off this attack. Dany has the larger army, but she doesn't know how to use it, hence how and why the Crown keeps winning these small battles rather than face Dany in the open. They're winning the battles they can, and they're winning them precisely because Dany's team won't use their superior force.
It also sets up the Field of Fire 2.0 because again, Jaime didn't do anything different this time. He didn't learn from his defeat by Robb, he once again attacked the obvious target (Riverrun vs Highgarden), and he's going to be caught in the open when Dany retaliates by unleashing her army... if Jaime didn't learn that is. Jaime claims he did however, thus Jaime should be expecting Dany to retaliate in full force. They've stung her three times, crippling her allies. The obvious next move from Team Dany is a full retaliation. If Jaime did learn from his defeat against Robb, then Jaime should fully be expecting the Field of Fire 2.0 when he'll be in the open returning to King's Landing with a slow target, seemingly prime pickings for Dany.
In which case, then history might reverse itself and the Field of Fire 2.0 is going to be a slaughter against the Targaryens, not for them.
Alas, this also expects reasonable writing instead of the more likely situation where Dany just wins horrifically because the show needs a Dany victory.
Your lordship lost a son at the Red Wedding. I lost four upon the Blackwater. And why? Because the Lannisters stole the throne. Go to King’s Landing and look on Tommen with your own eyes, if you doubt me. A blind man could see it. What does Stannis offer you? Vengeance. Vengeance for my sons and yours, for your husbands and your fathers and your brothers. Vengeance for your murdered lord, your murdered king, your butchered princes. Vengeance!
Tyrion didn't know Jamie that well as a commander.Didn't seem to know that since the Greyjoy allies and the Dornish were taken out that Oleana would be the obvious target once you got that news.
This part was so dumb.
Jaime: "I attacked where they didn't expect me"
There are 5 places in Westoros in rebellion to the throne: Winterfell, the Eyrie, Dragonstone, Sunspear, and Highgarden
Jaime's already said he can't attack the north with it being winter. The Vale forces are in the north, but Jaime again is also dealing with the foe he's facing instead of the future foe, and the Vale forces are not attacking Lannisters, they've just killed Boltons. So Jaime wouldn't attack either the north or Vale. That leaves Dragonstone, Sunspear, and Highgarden.
Dragonstone cannot be attacked. Dany has 3 dragons, every Dothraki horde, and a (partial) fleet. Jaime cannot take Dragonstone. That leaves Sunspear and Highgarden.
A look at any map will show you that Sunspear is further away from King's Landing than Highgarden, assuming you don't go by boat, which you shouldn't be able to do what with Dany controlling Dragonstone. Sunspear is also naturally protected from invasion by the Dornish mountains, while Highgarden sits in the middle of the notoriously open Reach. Highgarden is also much closer to Casterly Rock and the Iron Islands, both of the Crown's allies, while Sunspear is closer to Dragonstone, where Ellaria's allies are.
Essentially speaking, Highgarden is the obvious counterattack from the Crown. It's practically the only logical place they could attack. Dragonstone is too strong, Sunspear too far and too close to Dragonstone. Highgarden is obviously isolated and open to attack. Even before you get into the fact that Jaime had already swayed Randyll Tarly to support his disposal of the Tyrells.
Jaime didn't attack anywhere that shouldn't have been expecting an attack. He attacked the obvious target. Dany's team is just made up of incompetent generals. It would've made more logic for Jaime to acknowledge that he's facing a superior force but not that he's also facing superior generals, hence how he pulled off this attack. Dany has the larger army, but she doesn't know how to use it, hence how and why the Crown keeps winning these small battles rather than face Dany in the open. They're winning the battles they can, and they're winning them precisely because Dany's team won't use their superior force.
It also sets up the Field of Fire 2.0 because again, Jaime didn't do anything different this time. He didn't learn from his defeat by Robb, he once again attacked the obvious target (Riverrun vs Highgarden), and he's going to be caught in the open when Dany retaliates by unleashing her army... if Jaime didn't learn that is. Jaime claims he did however, thus Jaime should be expecting Dany to retaliate in full force. They've stung her three times, crippling her allies. The obvious next move from Team Dany is a full retaliation. If Jaime did learn from his defeat against Robb, then Jaime should fully be expecting the Field of Fire 2.0 when he'll be in the open returning to King's Landing with a slow target, seemingly prime pickings for Dany.
In which case, then history might reverse itself and the Field of Fire 2.0 is going to be a slaughter against the Targaryens, not for them.
Alas, this also expects reasonable writing instead of the more likely situation where Dany just wins horrifically because the show needs a Dany victory.
Word!Its seriously just sloppy writing.Also,the whole Stargate traveling seems to narratively suit them when they want.It is another thing that just puts you out of the scene.
Predictable fan service.
In addition to the...
1.Field of fire 2.0
2.Sam's going to find "The moldy parchment" for Jon legitimacy as a Targaryean.
3.Jon and Dany will be shipped.
4.Clegane bowl
Am I forgetting anything else? Lol.
"The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes"--Sherlock Holmes"
2.Sam's going to find "The moldy parchment" for Jon legitimacy as a Targaryean.
Honestly Wolfy, when Not-Marwyn was all "copy these scrolls" I just paused the DVR and lit up a cigarette. The colours faded to black & white, suddenly I was in a Godard film and life was meaningless.
True,true.I can see that.I think the writers are banking on the ignorance of the audience not seeing these set up a mile away.
They may even chalk the adhererance to predictable set up as returning to traditional form. Ugh...
Needless to say; my popcorn wasn't satisfying.Its taste to was predictable.Despite good notes (which I think was due to some Dark chili chocolate stuck between my teeth from 15 secs before the popcorn).The popcorn might have been a bit stale.
"The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes"--Sherlock Holmes"
There is no way of knowing if they are giving us fan service, or if that was the way GRRM plans on writing those scenes. Of course, he needs to write the books for us to find out.
Btw, never understood the excitement about the "Cleganbowl"? I never wanted to see it, and really don't care if we do. The Mountain was never really fleshed out enough for me to really care about him.
There is no way of knowing if they are giving us fan service, or if that was the way GRRM plans on writing those scenes. Of course, he needs to write the books for us to find out.
True but I bet you money there are no fucking Grey Worm/Missendrei fanservice coming in the books.
Btw, never understood the excitement about the "Cleganbowl"? I never wanted to see it, and really don't care if we do. The Mountain was never really fleshed out enough for me to really care about him.
You Ser need to start believing the HYPE!!! *blows airhorn*
Darkstar will be the next Vulture King.
Craster has 19 daughters and there are 19 castles on the Wall, coincidence I think not!
I don't think that Euron will wait for Cersai to give him his reward. He paid the iron price. He takes what is his. This is going to get interesting.
Come to think of it, Euron is a valonqar too... though I doubt the show will go this route. If he kills cersei (or simply wrests power from her), he'll be the new evil that has to be fought, and there just isn't time for another main antagonist to sprout up. Those white walkers have to come South at some point (right??? I'm starting to wonder), and IMO they won't share the spotlight in the handful of episodes that are left. I already feel like they've been so slow to appear that their invasion is going to feel anti climactic no matter how badass they are, since it can't take more than a season for them to invade and then be defeated.
I suppose Euron could kill Jaime and force cersei into a marriage... but would D&D really dare show us another hardcore rape scene?? Such an end would also cancel out the whole "girl power" vibe they worked so hard to establish.
Unless he betrays cersei by offering Dany an alliance. If she loses some more, and maybe suffers a betrayal herself, she may be willing to go for it. But again, IMO there isn't time to do this properly (not that this would stop D&D).
Sigh. I fear that the chances of all this coming to a satisfying conclusion are slim to none.
“In Qohor he is the Black Goat, in Yi Ti the Lion of Night, in Westeros the Stranger. All men must bow to him in the end, no matter if they worship the Seven or the Lord of Light, the Moon Mother or the Drowned God or the Great Shepherd. All mankind belongs to him... else somewhere in the world would be a folk who lived forever. Do you know of any folk who live forever?”
