It is honestly crazy how speculative things are, but he wrote six chapters in a month and that means he completed two arcs, both were in Essos too as he mentions returning to Westeros in his notablog posts, maybe Rhaegar was after Lyanna too as he suspected she was KOTLT, though I suspect Eddard was the Knight people were searching for, he grabs the flower crown meant for Lyanna after all.
I have not read any recent blog posts, but he is capable of writing a great deal when the mood strikes him, and if he doesn't then edit it all away. As to Rhaegar's intentions with Lyanna, I have speculated from left to right and then back again, and I think at this point I could see the potential for most options. As to the KotLT, I think on this site, I am still voting for Ned to be the KotLT, but I do see potential for other's to be in that mismatched armor. Jaime circling back and taking on that role would not surprise me, my only doubt lies with Jaime being tall, even as youth, much like Joffrey is, and the KotLT was said to be small in stature. But I like the idea of either Jaime or Ned, for potential backlash that they didn't expect by their actions. I hope we get an answer some day!
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
It is honestly crazy how speculative things are, but he wrote six chapters in a month and that means he completed two arcs, both were in Essos too as he mentions returning to Westeros in his notablog posts, maybe Rhaegar was after Lyanna too as he suspected she was KOTLT, though I suspect Eddard was the Knight people were searching for, he grabs the flower crown meant for Lyanna after all.
I have not read any recent blog posts, but he is capable of writing a great deal when the mood strikes him, and if he doesn't then edit it all away. As to Rhaegar's intentions with Lyanna, I have speculated from left to right and then back again, and I think at this point I could see the potential for most options. As to the KotLT, I think on this site, I am still voting for Ned to be the KotLT, but I do see potential for other's to be in that mismatched armor. Jaime circling back and taking on that role would not surprise me, my only doubt lies with Jaime being tall, even as youth, much like Joffrey is, and the KotLT was said to be small in stature. But I like the idea of either Jaime or Ned, for potential backlash that they didn't expect by their actions. I hope we get an answer some day!
TWOW doesn't mention KOTLT to be short of height sadly, but ASOIAF series does, so I think Ned is the best option. Oh I don't read all NotABlog posts but last two gives the reader a hope.
TWOW doesn't mention KOTLT to be short of height sadly, but ASOIAF series does, so I think Ned is the best option. Oh I don't read all NotABlog posts but last two gives the reader a hope.
I don't really think of Ned as short, but he's probably not tall, not like Jaime or like Robert. Average of height for Ned, but would that make him appear to be a "short" knight? I like the idea though of Ned, who doesn't seem to fight in tourney's but probably has all the skills of a knight with his training, using a hidden identity to fight. And then things turned out so badly that since that time he has disliked tournaments.
I would like a little hope that TWOW is going to be published in the near future. I guess I will have to check the Not-a-blog out!
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
TWOW doesn't mention KOTLT to be short of height sadly, but ASOIAF series does, so I think Ned is the best option. Oh I don't read all NotABlog posts but last two gives the reader a hope.
I don't really think of Ned as short, but he's probably not tall, not like Jaime or like Robert. Average of height for Ned, but would that make him appear to be a "short" knight? I like the idea though of Ned, who doesn't seem to fight in tourney's but probably has all the skills of a knight with his training, using a hidden identity to fight. And then things turned out so badly that since that time he has disliked tournaments.
I would like a little hope that TWOW is going to be published in the near future. I guess I will have to check the Not-a-blog out!
Since Jon wears Longclaw on his back due to his short height and he is Ned Jr., I would say young Ned was short and didn't look impressive compared to Brandon.
Since Jon wears Longclaw on his back due to his short height and he is Ned Jr., I would say young Ned was short and didn't look impressive compared to Brandon.
I am a short person, and I have to reach for just about everything I have ever needed but I see a distinction between short and just shorter than tall. Brandon was said to be tall. Ned is not as tall as Brandon, but that doesn't mean he is short. The difference could only be a few inches, while Brandon is 6ft 2in, that might mean Ned is only 5ft 11in. That doesn't make Ned short, just not as tall as Brandon, or Robert Baratheon, who might have made Brandon Stark look short.
In Game, Cat is hinted at being a tall woman, although I am not sure how tall a person has to be to be considered a tall woman in this world. She is taller than Robb at the start of our story (and Robb's height is compared to Ice), and even though she is a head shorter than her brother Edmure, but Edmure is noted to be tall. When she and Ned are in Littlefinger's brothel, Catelyn lies her head against Ned, and her head rests against his chest. Not his shoulder, and she doesn't seem to be leaning down, so he is certainly taller than her. She raises her lips to kiss him, which means he must be several inches taller than her.
As to Jon, we know that when he was gifted Longclaw, he was just turned 15, and is probably only 16 years old now. Jon is a head taller than Ygritte, although she is probably not very tall, but that would at least make him 6-8 in taller than her. Jon still could grow in his later teen years, and Eddard might have as well. No one refers to Jon (or Ned) as tall, but they don't call them short either.
As for the height of the Knight of the Laughing Tree, one of the things that I have read over and over for years is that the short stature must hint that it's either Lyanna or Howland in that armor. But also, we don't know how old or tall Benjen might have been, and perhaps that is another option. Hard to say what his height was like at this age, although in Game, Jon describes is uncle with "long" legs. But I don't know if that means Benjen is taller than Ned or not? Most people's heights are a bit vague in the story, although GRRM has addressed some of these in SSM's. I don't think either Ned or Jon was given a specific height, though.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Since Jon wears Longclaw on his back due to his short height and he is Ned Jr., I would say young Ned was short and didn't look impressive compared to Brandon.
I am a short person, and I have to reach for just about everything I have ever needed but I see a distinction between short and just shorter than tall. Brandon was said to be tall. Ned is not as tall as Brandon, but that doesn't mean he is short. The difference could only be a few inches, while Brandon is 6ft 2in, that might mean Ned is only 5ft 11in. That doesn't make Ned short, just not as tall as Brandon, or Robert Baratheon, who might have made Brandon Stark look short.
In Game, Cat is hinted at being a tall woman, although I am not sure how tall a person has to be to be considered a tall woman in this world. She is taller than Robb at the start of our story (and Robb's height is compared to Ice), and even though she is a head shorter than her brother Edmure, but Edmure is noted to be tall. When she and Ned are in Littlefinger's brothel, Catelyn lies her head against Ned, and her head rests against his chest. Not his shoulder, and she doesn't seem to be leaning down, so he is certainly taller than her. She raises her lips to kiss him, which means he must be several inches taller than her.
As to Jon, we know that when he was gifted Longclaw, he was just turned 15, and is probably only 16 years old now. Jon is a head taller than Ygritte, although she is probably not very tall, but that would at least make him 6-8 in taller than her. Jon still could grow in his later teen years, and Eddard might have as well. No one refers to Jon (or Ned) as tall, but they don't call them short either.
As for the height of the Knight of the Laughing Tree, one of the things that I have read over and over for years is that the short stature must hint that it's either Lyanna or Howland in that armor. But also, we don't know how old or tall Benjen might have been, and perhaps that is another option. Hard to say what his height was like at this age, although in Game, Jon describes is uncle with "long" legs. But I don't know if that means Benjen is taller than Ned or not? Most people's heights are a bit vague in the story, although GRRM has addressed some of these in SSM's. I don't think either Ned or Jon was given a specific height, though.
Well KOTLT can't be Lyanna because she is called slim and tall, but yes Ned could grow tall, though Jon doesn't and I belive he was shorter than Robb who is compared to Ice not Jon, and grows taller later. Jaime seems to grow taller compared to his fifteen years old self though we can't say teen Jaime was short. Benjen is a great choice for KOTLT since he claims he can find armor for Howland.
Well KOTLT can't be Lyanna because she is called slim and short, but yes Ned could grow tall, though Jon doesn't and I belive he was shorter than Robb who is compared to Ice not Jon, and grows taller later. Jaime seems to grow taller compared to his fifteen years old self though we can't say teen Jaime was short. Benjen is a great choice for KOTLT since he claims he can find armor for Howland.
Well, Lyanna as slim and short in armor could possibly appear to be a short man. And Jon could be growing, we don't know that he is or isn't. Melisandre is noted to be taller than many knights but Jon never comments on having to look up to her. Stannis is certainly taller than him, but the Baratheon's are all tall, and Stannis is somewhere between Robert and Renly in height, but that doesn't mean Jon is short. I imagine he falls somewhere between short and tall, probably average or middling. Mance is noted to be of middling height, and slender, so Jon could actually be built very similar to Mance. And we are never told if Jon or Robb is taller, only that Bran compares Ice's length to Robb's height. I imagine that Robb is taller than Jon, though. At this time in the story, Robb is shorter than Catelyn, and Cat's head only reaches Ned's chest. Robb does grow taller as he get's older, and Cat certainly attributes that to the Tully's. So, whether Robb turns out to be Ned's or Brandon's (that theory has potential) perhaps that hints that all of the Stark men are shorter than the Tully men, even Brandon, who Cat think's of as tall (or perhaps it's just that Brandon is taller than Ned, or Ned is shorter than Brandon). Somewhere on Reddit there is a great theory about the heights of characters, and I remember MarkG had a long and detailed response. GRRM seems to have been quite vague about this with the Stark's, and I suppose that is because he is trying to hide parentage clues.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Well KOTLT can't be Lyanna because she is called slim and short, but yes Ned could grow tall, though Jon doesn't and I belive he was shorter than Robb who is compared to Ice not Jon, and grows taller later. Jaime seems to grow taller compared to his fifteen years old self though we can't say teen Jaime was short. Benjen is a great choice for KOTLT since he claims he can find armor for Howland.
Well, Lyanna as slim and short in armor could possibly appear to be a short man. And Jon could be growing, we don't know that he is or isn't. Melisandre is noted to be taller than many knights but Jon never comments on having to look up to her. Stannis is certainly taller than him, but the Baratheon's are all tall, and Stannis is somewhere between Robert and Renly in height, but that doesn't mean Jon is short. I imagine he falls somewhere between short and tall, probably average or middling. Mance is noted to be of middling height, and slender, so Jon could actually be built very similar to Mance. And we are never told if Jon or Robb is taller, only that Bran compares Ice's length to Robb's height. I imagine that Robb is taller than Jon, though. At this time in the story, Robb is shorter than Catelyn, and Cat's head only reaches Ned's chest. Robb does grow taller as he get's older, and Cat certainly attributes that to the Tully's. So, whether Robb turns out to be Ned's or Brandon's (that theory has potential) perhaps that hints that all of the Stark men are shorter than the Tully men, even Brandon, who Cat think's of as tall (or perhaps it's just that Brandon is taller than Ned, or Ned is shorter than Brandon). Somewhere on Reddit there is a great theory about the heights of characters, and I remember MarkG had a long and detailed response. GRRM seems to have been quite vague about this with the Stark's, and I suppose that is because he is trying to hide parentage clues.
I meant slim and tall sorry, but yes I do think it is possible Tully Men are taller than Starks and there could be parentage reveal when it comes to secrecy of GRRM, I think Young Griff height is vague too, he is same height as Jon Conington now and still growing but we don't know how tall JonC is.
I meant slim and tall sorry, but yes I do think it is possible Tully Men are taller than Starks and there could be parentage reveal when it comes to secrecy of GRRM, I think Young Griff height is vague too, he is same height as Jon Conington now and still growing but we don't know how tall JonC is.
Of course, it is interesting that of all the character's that GRRM has been so vague about, one is Jon Snow, and the other is Young Griff/Aegon, both of whom are potential son's of Rhaegar Targaryen. GRRM is certainly being vague on purpose.
And is Lyanna tall and slim? I know she has been called slim, but I don't know that her height has ever been discussed in the text.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
I meant slim and tall sorry, but yes I do think it is possible Tully Men are taller than Starks and there could be parentage reveal when it comes to secrecy of GRRM, I think Young Griff height is vague too, he is same height as Jon Conington now and still growing but we don't know how tall JonC is.
Of course, it is interesting that of all the character's that GRRM has been so vague about, one is Jon Snow, and the other is Young Griff/Aegon, both of whom are potential son's of Rhaegar Targaryen. GRRM is certainly being vague on purpose.
And is Lyanna tall and slim? I know she has been called slim, but I don't know that her height has ever been discussed in the text.
Yep, heights of Viserys and Rhaegar are vague too, Rhaegar is taller than Viserys but is Viserys short? We don't know. Theon describe vision Lyanna as slim and tall.
Yep, heights of Viserys and Rhaegar are vague too, Rhaegar is taller than Viserys but is Viserys short? We don't know. Theon describe vision Lyanna as slim and tall.
I doubt Viserys is short, although it does seem like Rhaegar was taller. I would imagine that Viserys is average but Rhaegar taller. That's what I take away from Dany's vision in the House of the Undying, although it is vague. Viserys is never mentioned as being short, though.
Theon's vision of Lyanna describes her as slim and sad. No mention of height. I imagine she is built more like Arya than Sansa, and Sansa is described as tall and fair.
The slim, sad girl who wore a crown of pale blue roses and a white gown spattered with gore could only be Lyanna. ACOK-Theon V
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Yep, heights of Viserys and Rhaegar are vague too, Rhaegar is taller than Viserys but is Viserys short? We don't know. Theon describe vision Lyanna as slim and tall.
I doubt Viserys is short, although it does seem like Rhaegar was taller. I would imagine that Viserys is average but Rhaegar taller. That's what I take away from Dany's vision in the House of the Undying, although it is vague. Viserys is never mentioned as being short, though.
Theon's vision of Lyanna describes her as slim and sad. No mention of height. I imagine she is built more like Arya than Sansa, and Sansa is described as tall and fair.
The slim, sad girl who wore a crown of pale blue roses and a white gown spattered with gore could only be Lyanna. ACOK-Theon V
Dang it, I was so sure Theon described Lyanna as tall! Yeah I would agree with you about heights of Rhaegar and Viserys.
You seem to discuss Kevan calling Daenerys Stormborn, people who hears about her fame in Essos uses Stormborn to refer Daenerys as that after third book I think.
Dang it, I was so sure Theon described Lyanna as tall! Yeah I would agree with you about heights of Rhaegar and Viserys.
You seem to discuss Kevan calling Daenerys Stormborn, people who hears about her fame in Essos uses Stormborn to refer Daenerys as that after third book I think.
Height's in the story are often vague, even when they are almost fantastically tall, such as Gregor or Hodor. Gregor is almost eight feet tall but we don't really know how close to eight feet tall that is, or is it closer to seven feet. Even the details are vague.
Well, Dany calls herself Daenerys Stormborn much of the time. That is how she introduces herself. She doesn't just say Daenerys Targaryen, she often says she is Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen. That is a huge distinction in my mind. But even if there are not hidden parentage hints in that name, such as perhaps that she is a bastard of House Targaryen instead of trueborn, just based on the amount of times she calls herself that and the name she is making for herself by her actions in Essos, it stands to reason that that rest of the world would call her by the same name she calls herself. Now, Dany also refers to herself as Daenerys Targaryen as well, so it's not as if she doesn't go by her legal last name also. But she uses Stormborn a lot to describe herself. I don't know if that is because Illyrio wants it that way, like he has planted that in her mind, as well as the minds of the three slaves he sends with her from Pentos.
But for whatever reason she has that nickname, she has certainly embraced it as part of who she is.
The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE? With a belch of flame and smoke that reached thirty feet into the sky, the pyre collapsed and came down around her. Unafraid, Dany stepped forward into the firestorm, calling to her children. AGOT-Daenerys X
And here she ties her self to a firestorm, a fire she claims is her own fire, which is a bit different than most of her thoughts on "stormborn" and tying it to a sea storm that attacked Dragonstone on her birth. I have never paid attention to this "firestorm" concept before, but this is the only time it's used in the whole ASOIAF book series. I see it comes up once in the World Book and twice in the Princess and the Queen, and those three references are tied to the wrath of the dragonriders and their dragons. Later, if we look at what she does in Astapor, when she liberates her slave army, it's a bit of a "firestorm", just hints at the potential destruction she and her dragons might be capable of.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.
Dang it, I was so sure Theon described Lyanna as tall! Yeah I would agree with you about heights of Rhaegar and Viserys.
You seem to discuss Kevan calling Daenerys Stormborn, people who hears about her fame in Essos uses Stormborn to refer Daenerys as that after third book I think.
Height's in the story are often vague, even when they are almost fantastically tall, such as Gregor or Hodor. Gregor is almost eight feet tall but we don't really know how close to eight feet tall that is, or is it closer to seven feet. Even the details are vague.
Well, Dany calls herself Daenerys Stormborn much of the time. That is how she introduces herself. She doesn't just say Daenerys Targaryen, she often says she is Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen. That is a huge distinction in my mind. But even if there are not hidden parentage hints in that name, such as perhaps that she is a bastard of House Targaryen instead of trueborn, just based on the amount of times she calls herself that and the name she is making for herself by her actions in Essos, it stands to reason that that rest of the world would call her by the same name she calls herself. Now, Dany also refers to herself as Daenerys Targaryen as well, so it's not as if she doesn't go by her legal last name also. But she uses Stormborn a lot to describe herself. I don't know if that is because Illyrio wants it that way, like he has planted that in her mind, as well as the minds of the three slaves he sends with her from Pentos.
But for whatever reason she has that nickname, she has certainly embraced it as part of who she is.
The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE? With a belch of flame and smoke that reached thirty feet into the sky, the pyre collapsed and came down around her. Unafraid, Dany stepped forward into the firestorm, calling to her children. AGOT-Daenerys X
And here she ties her self to a firestorm, a fire she claims is her own fire, which is a bit different than most of her thoughts on "stormborn" and tying it to a sea storm that attacked Dragonstone on her birth. I have never paid attention to this "firestorm" concept before, but this is the only time it's used in the whole ASOIAF book series. I see it comes up once in the World Book and twice in the Princess and the Queen, and those three references are tied to the wrath of the dragonriders and their dragons. Later, if we look at what she does in Astapor, when she liberates her slave army, it's a bit of a "firestorm", just hints at the potential destruction she and her dragons might be capable of.
Firestorm is new to me as well, but is it possible Storm born refers to the storm that happen while Ned was going to White Harbor at the start of rebellion, or the storm of rose petals from ToJ dream of Ned? Since we know a storm didn't happen when Stannis was preparing to take Dragonstone.
Firestorm is new to me as well, but is it possible Storm born refers to the storm that happen while Ned was going to White Harbor at the start of rebellion, or the storm of rose petals from ToJ dream of Ned? Since we know a storm didn't happen when Stannis was preparing to take Dragonstone.
I think storm could have several meanings, and I do think the "storm" that is attributed to Ned Stark and the Fisherman's Daughter could be one of them. I am not sure if that is easily tied to Dany's "firestorm". Honestly, I was surprised I had never paid attention to "firestorm" before, as it's pretty strong wording, but I had not. I am leaning towards it tying to dragons and their riders, such as the dragons attacking Harrenhal or the Field of Fire, but I suppose it could also apply to lightening and fire started in that way. Which brings to mind the Stormlords, such as Baratheon and Dondarrion, who are certainly tied to lightening. I guess lightening could probably tie to a storm at sea, such as the storm in the the Bite, or the storm that took Steffan Baratheon's life.
The storm of rose petals could perhaps tie to any of those and it's certainly strong imagery in the story, but it feels a little different to me. Not gentle, but subtle and drifting, if that makes any sense at all.
Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.