Found another one... Jaehaera, the daughter of Aegon II who was married to her cousin Aegon III at age 8, is said to have jumped from Maegor's and landed on the spikes below, dying in agony a half hour later at the age of ten. Again there is some controversy as to whether she actually jumped herself or was thrown. Suspects include Ser Mervyn Flowers of the Kingsguard (brother of Unwin Peake) who was guarding her door when it happened and the sellsword Tessario the Tiger (hired by Unwin Peake)
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
Not only does he think about it a lot, he turned it into an abomination, and I suspect that abominations increase power. So he potentially made sleeping with your brother a way to become more powerful...
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
Not only does he think about it a lot, he turned it into an abomination, and I suspect that abominations increase power. So he potentially made sleeping with your brother a way to become more powerful...
Sex, or inbreeding? I think it's the progeny, the doubling of the bloodline, that he makes powerful. He doesn't really do sex magic per se, except for the Night's King. Isn't that interesting? Now I'm wondering about the Pale Moon woman. What happened to her?
Not only does he think about it a lot, he turned it into an abomination, and I suspect that abominations increase power. So he potentially made sleeping with your brother a way to become more powerful...
Sex, or inbreeding? I think it's the progeny, the doubling of the bloodline, that he makes powerful. He doesn't really do sex magic per se, except for the Night's King. Isn't that interesting? Now I'm wondering about the Pale Moon woman. What happened to her?
Agreed. GRRM gives us several types of couplings which seem to have similar magical qualities: regular marriage, sex, skinchanging, sacred oaths(?), tree marriage. Any others?
"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery." "True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes." Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows." "A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."
Not only does he think about it a lot, he turned it into an abomination, and I suspect that abominations increase power. So he potentially made sleeping with your brother a way to become more powerful...
Sex, or inbreeding? I think it's the progeny, the doubling of the bloodline, that he makes powerful. He doesn't really do sex magic per se, except for the Night's King. Isn't that interesting? Now I'm wondering about the Pale Moon woman. What happened to her?
Agreed. GRRM gives us several types of couplings which seem to have similar magical qualities: regular marriage, sex, skinchanging, sacred oaths(?), tree marriage. Any others?
"No true knight would condone such wanton butchery." "True knights see worse every time they ride to war, wench," said Jaime. "And do worse, yes." Brienne turned the rudder toward the shore. "I'll leave no innocents to be food for crows." "A heartless wench. Crows need to eat as well. Stay to the river and leave the dead alone, woman."
Agreed. GRRM gives us several types of couplings which seem to have similar magical qualities: regular marriage, sex, skinchanging, sacred oaths(?), tree marriage. Any others?
Dany+Drogo is a weird one that I think strongly parallels NQ's power over NK (sex that takes seed and soul). But that falls under the marriage umbrella I suppose.
Then there's Mel's kingly couplings. Those are definitetly some sex magic.
Also, as Dany sleeps in proximity to the dragon eggs, her relationship with them is very odd. In one dream, it seems almost sexual. But in her waking life, they are literally her ovum. Given that dragons are genderless, they seem to rely upon the fertility of their human counterparts for procreation. But that might be taking it too far. Hard to say.
The Targ tradition of keeping dragon eggs in baby cradles, and that some eggs will hatch from the exercise and that some eggs will not, seems like a giveaway to me that dragon hatching is tied to individual strengths/passions. Like Stark children with wolf pups, the two seem symbiotic (to the point that it is sometimes difficult to define where certain behaviors originate - with the person, or with the familiar).
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."
Not only does he think about it a lot, he turned it into an abomination, and I suspect that abominations increase power. So he potentially made sleeping with your brother a way to become more powerful...
Sex, or inbreeding? I think it's the progeny, the doubling of the bloodline, that he makes powerful. He doesn't really do sex magic per se, except for the Night's King. Isn't that interesting? Now I'm wondering about the Pale Moon woman. What happened to her?
Well, maybe. Except Varamyr seems to tell us differently. Sex as a ward or skinchanger is considered abomination. Varamyr does it anyways. In the end I believe that might be what affords him the ability to control more than one animal at a time.
Now incest is also considered abomination but is something that the Valyrians practiced routinely in order to preserve the bloodline. It allows them to maintain a closer link to their dragons, but, magically, is that really all it did?
I've had some interesting notions regarding the Night's Queen lately as well. I suspect that she might have actually been the three eyed crow in the Night's King's timeline. Just like Bran chases the crow giving him his seed and soul (the corn) the Night's King chases his Queen.
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
Lady Dyanna, NK'S name can't be spoken, but her fate and that of her king's seed? Not a word from a guy who takes two paragraphs to describe breakfast. I don't buy it.
Lady Dyanna , NK'S name can't be spoken, but her fate and that of her king's seed? Not a word from a guy who takes two paragraphs to describe breakfast. I don't buy it.
I've heard speculated that the Night's Queen fate was similar to that of Lady Serala Darklyn after the capture after the Defiance of Duskendale. As a foreigner she took the blame for placing her husband under her spell and being responsible for the whole thing, similar to how the Night's Queen was blamed for her King's downfall. At the end, Aerys had her tongue and "womanly parts" ripped out and burned her. Funny thing. All of the Darklyns and Hollards were put to death as punishment, with one exception. The young boy, Ser Dontos Hollard was spared due to the request of Ser Barristan. Interesting coincidence. Dontos was the nephew of the goodbrother of Lord Darklyn. Was the off spring of the Night's King and Queen either a niece or nephew of Lord Stark?
Why must I always be the isle of crazy alone in an ocean of sensibility? The should to everybody else’s shouldn’t? The I-will to their better-nots?
I gotta say that Dawn and the Red Sword are two different swords. I think Lightbringer is a title. Aemon says that Lightbringer is warm to the touch. Curiously Mel entices Jon to feel her skin, she is warm to the touch. I think we are talking about Dany who must touch the light. Light as a euphamism for widsom; the crone in other words who carries the lantern. Dany is for all intents and purposes one of the crones at Vaes Dothrak at this point.
The red sword of heroes is the fiery sword that burns with it's own heat. I think this is an obsidion blade. Don't be fooled by Mel's ruby. When she glamors Mance; he feels the heat of it on his skin and when she breaks the glamor; the stone goes dark.
And we have this from Quaithe:
A Clash of Kings - Daenerys III "No trick," a woman said in the Common Tongue. Dany had not noticed Quaithe in the crowd, yet there she stood, eyes wet and shiny behind the implacable red lacquer mask. "What mean you, my lady?" "Half a year gone, that man could scarcely wake fire from dragonglass. He had some small skill with powders and wildfire, sufficient to entrance a crowd while his cutpurses did their work. He could walk across hot coals and make burning roses bloom in the air, but he could no more aspire to climb the fiery ladder than a common fisherman could hope to catch a kraken in his nets."
Do we have any indication that Dawn is hot? Aemon seems to expect Lightbringer to burn with heat, not just light.
Aemon, like most readers, wants to see a flaming sword. I argue that Dawn, as a sword, is simply a symbol for dawn.
The sword in the darkness. The light that brings the dawn. The fire that burns against the cold.
Yes my friend. Dawn is hot. Dawn is the very source of heat and light. Life. And only Dawn can end a Long Night.
Beyond that, I think that Dawn is a shard of crystal, like the Wall. And I think that like the Wall itself, I believe Dawn can (and will) take flame.
Jon Snow turned away. The last light of the sun had begun to fade. He watched the cracks along the Wall go from red to grey to black, from streaks of fire to rivers of black ice. Down below, Lady Melisandre would be lighting her nightfire and chanting, Lord of Light, defend us, for the night is dark and full of terrors.
“Winter is coming,” Jon said at last, breaking the awkward silence, “and with it the white walkers. The Wall is where we stop them. The Wall was made to stop them … but the Wall must be manned. This discussion is at an end. We have much to do before the gate is opened. Tormund and his people will need to be fed and clothed and housed. Some are sick and will need nursing. Those will fall to you, Clydas. Save as many as you can.”
"I can see it. You have more of the north in you than your brothers."