Post by shymaid on Nov 23, 2017 4:56:19 GMT
Nov 23, 2017 2:24:33 GMT Nyx said:
For me this separation between himself and his father and half siblings was a result of the previous scene. No matter how strong this 14 yr old boy is he's still susceptible to heartbreak. Catlyn's rejection of him and her "it should have been you" was bound to make him even more isolated if possible. "You Starks" sounded in my mind like a reproach, his own rejection of the Stark family as a reaction to not being wanted by Cat and a repressed desire of belonging all rolled into one!That could be part of it, of course! But it's not the first time he'll deny his Starkness, so I see it as part of a pattern. Granted, we don't know if he started doing that here or at the Wall, but it's a fair chance it wasn't the first time. Catelyn had made a huge effort to make sure he knew where he stood for years. The "You Starks" could have several layers of meaning, but I do think his love for Robb is obvious here. It's their (final) goodbye, so I'd think that would be foremost on Jon's mind there.
Nov 23, 2017 2:24:33 GMT Nyx said:
I linked shymaid's evidence of Starkcest to Martin's initial proposal to his editor In a flash I discovered that with reading that letter I have totally sullied my thoughts! Where before this interaction seemed innocent and brotherly, now I felt undertones of weirdness and incest. Wish I'd never read that silly initial proposal. Welcome to the dark side!
It probably has to do with his initial thoughts! While I have accepted that this probably is a -cest story, I can not go there when it includes little girls of nine! Way too pedophile that, so I put that letter right out of my head. Only remembered it after posting, but decided to let it stand.
Nov 23, 2017 2:24:33 GMT Nyx said:
Sorry folks but everyone knows that Arthur Dayne was about 37-38 when Luke Roberts shot the scenes at TOJ Everyone!
Haha! Luke Roberts was indeed a good choice!
But everybody knows it's Dorne's bloody sun that makes him look to be in his late thirties.
Nov 23, 2017 2:24:33 GMT Nyx said:
That being said I imagined him to be older than Ashara by a few yrs. Somehow never thought they might be twins.Same here!